Go on then, recommend me some tyres...!

OK, after our first pay & play day in my mates Disco, two 'limiting factors' became apparent, and both can be (partially) solved/improved in one go, with a change of tyres - ground clearance and grip.

He is running Pirelli Scorpion A/TR tyres in a 235/75/16 fitment I believe. My RRC is running narrower 205/80/16 A/T's too, which I think give similar ground clearance.

So, what tyres would you recommend? They need to be OK for road use too, but I also want to be able to go greenlaning without chewing them up, but also cope with the odd pay & play day!

I have read this: Range Rover Classic Tire Choices but still can't decide! The 215/85/16's give roughly an extra inch of ground clearance but will probably be (and look) very narrow, so would rather something a little wider to keep the proportions right!

So, can anyone recommend a tyre size that doesn't require arch modifiations but will raise the diffs and bodywork off the ground a bit and give some extra grip in mud too?? They do need to be 'road-worthy' so no ridiculously treaded M/TR tyres please, but something more aggresive than the current ones would be good.

Cheers!

P.S. Have also posted this in 'Offroading' as thought it would be interesting to see if everyone recommends the same thing!

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get some general grabber road tyres as cos you dont use diff lock yo will be stayin on the road.

Lol At's have bugger all grip I'd put difflock on to get off my driveway!

Pirelli scorpions are fooking dangerous was in a disco doing 8mph in the snow and it was worse than any 2wd car mind you he didn't lock his centre diff either

the only tire that will do both is all terrain,they will give grip offroad but not much, ither insa turbo ranger or bf goodrich all terrian, and the size around 265x75r16 will be fatter and give you more tire on the road. one more suggestion could be 30mm wheel spacers only if you want wider track,gives more stability and better handling.

I'd personally forget spacers don't discount narow tyres because of the look. So I'm trying to get around this more aggresive than AT's well you have MTR or Insa turbo Dakars bloody good tyres so are diamond pattern but My money (as I had a set of these in 235 85 R16 from Bronco remoulds)

Tyres Direct UK :: 4x4 :: Insa Turbo :: 235/70R16 106S Insa Turbo Traction Track

Now that Insa Turbo are making them they will be a good compound and these are Great tyres road manners are good offorad I'd rate them higher then BF Mud terrain. As for size its up to you but the biggest you can without rubbing.

i know someone who owns a svx 90 and it come with 235x85r16's on it and they are big in the wall bit thinner and they look good but sometimes thinner tires are better i would think as they will cut throught mud and snow better than thinker tires,and im thinking on getting insa turbo rangers for ma discovery 300 but it has no liftv yet,can i fit 31x10.5x15 on it ?

750x16s SAGs.

tom1disco.300 said:

i know someone who owns a svx 90 and it come with 235x85r16's on it and they are big in the wall bit thinner and they look good but sometimes thinner tires are better i would think as they will cut throught mud and snow better than thinker tires,

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this statement always makes me chuckle

what a load of bollix:doh:

so 2 tonnes of kitted out landy on skinny tyres will dig down thru the mud and get grip better than a wider tyre..pwaaahahahaha

so why in competition are all the guys i know and including myself using simex/super swampers etc and not a bicycle size tyre

i had general grabber at2 they were not great in mud as the clogged easy, brilliant in the snow and fooking dangerous in the wet

:doh::dohh well you learn something new everyday! suppose that makes sense! SILLY ME!

OK, so what can I get that works in mud, snow and on the roads, both wet and dry? Insa Turbo's seem to be the most common answer - I've heard some Kumho's are worth a look too??

kumos are okay the kumo kl71 is a good mud tire i think it is 80% offroad and 20% on road so that could be another option ! it is a mud tire so it will cope beetr offroad and in the snow but i will cause road noise and will cost a little more fule tho

wiltshire landyman said:

this statement always makes me chuckle

what a load of bollix:doh:

so 2 tonnes of kitted out landy on skinny tyres will dig down thru the mud and get grip better than a wider tyre..pwaaahahahaha

so why in competition are all the guys i know and including myself using simex/super swampers etc and not a bicycle size tyre

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All the competition guys I know inc myself (limited to 33 inch LR regulations on std tyre height) use skinny tyres 750R16 opposed to the slightly wider 235 85 R16 because they do exactly that. They dig down. Surprising how easily the wider simex/insa turbos clog in clay where a 750 SAT (better than the now SAGS) or indeed a 235 85 R16 Insa would not clog. No bugger makes them SAT's anymore so Simex/Insa's are about as good as it gets tread wise but wider ones defo clog far more easily than the skinny versions........ I'm no fan or wide tyres myself.

2 tonnes Plus because a winched up dual batteries tubular arse ended 90 weighs a shed load. Wide tyres reduce PSI on the floor contact and that can be critical. Problem is many manufacturers do not sell skinny tyres they are based on old tyres which are wide carcases. Its swings and roundabouts Skinny tyres have worked better for my situation wide tyres worked ok but I found were not biting down as they should have been and got clogged far quicker. but some people prefer wide tyres no right or wrong here but Personal choice

jai_landrover said:

2 tonnes Plus because a winched up dual batteries tubular arse ended 90 weighs a shed load. Wide tyres reduce PSI on the floor contact and that can be critical. Problem is many manufacturers do not sell skinny tyres they are based on old tyres which are wide carcases. Its swings and roundabouts Skinny tyres have worked better for my situation wide tyres worked ok but I found were not biting down as they should have been and got clogged far quicker. but some people prefer wide tyres no right or wrong here but Personal choice

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the wide vs skinny debate will always be an ongoing argument and i still stand by my comment

most comps ive been in have a limit of 35" tyres believe it or not my 36" simex are a tad under 35" work that out

i still think that a skinny tyre wont go down any further or better than a wider tyre and the most governing factor of how far down you can go is where your diffs are and im sure a 235/85 tyre will bottom out on the diffs before a 35/10.50 simex type

in the extreme mud conditions of competition i and most the guys i know wont use anything but simex/super swampers and insa special tracks.

horses for courses n all dat

MikeV8SE said:

OK, so what can I get that works in mud, snow and on the roads, both wet and dry?

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Nothing, you can get a great Mud tyre, a great Snow tyre and a great Road tyre, but not one that'll do all of those well. Pick where you want to compromise and go for what you want it to do best.

I've got a set for the muddy stuff and laning, which are ****e on the road, terrible in the wet and lethal in the snow and a set of Winter tyres that'll go anywhere in the snow and are great on the road, especially in the wet.

Spyderman said:

Nothing, you can get a great Mud tyre, a great Snow tyre and a great Road tyre, but not one that'll do all of those well. Pick where you want to compromise and go for what you want it to do best.

I've got a set for the muddy stuff and laning, which are ****e on the road, terrible in the wet and lethal in the snow and a set of Winter tyres that'll go anywhere in the snow and are great on the road, especially in the wet.

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I guess 'snow' would be the area to compromise on as we get very little of it, so a good on/off-road tyre would be best, albeit with a leaning towards some ability in the snow too!!

jai_landrover said:

No bugger makes them SAT's anymore so Simex/Insa's are about as good as it gets tread wise but wider ones defo clog far more easily than the skinny versions........ I'm no fan or wide tyres myself.

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Yes they do! I posted a link in the Herts lanes thread a few months back -
Tyres Direct UK :: 4x4 :: Fedima :: 7.50R16 Fedima Maxima Mud Pluggers

Will be getting myself some soon