Front hub help.

I have done a few searches and not came up with anything to identify the front hubs/free wheel hubs fitted to the front of my SWB 69 S2A

Anyone any ideas? Inner hub seals are gubbed so will need to strip them down and thought I would ask first in case there is anything I should be aware of prior to stripping.





Found a thread from 2007 and they were discussed but not identified in pictures, although the description was identical.

I need to order hub seals etc but any advice would be once again appreciated.

I am assuming they are automatic free-wheeling hubs but as there is no evident makers mark on casing, I'm not certain.

they ARE auto freewheeling hubs, i can't be certain but for some reason FAIREY springs to mind

Google Image Result for http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u187/Assich/IMGP1070.jpg

http://www.series2club.co.uk/forum/forum/index.php?topic=34938.0

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=a...1BOin0AXssIG4Ag&ved=0CFkQsAQ&biw=1024&bih=639

Thanks that is exactly what I was looking for. The links are extremely helpful.

Haven't seen one of those in a long time!

It certainly looks like an early 60's Fairey Automatic Hub, and at the time I don't remember anyone else making them, as all the rest were selective.

I wish I could help more but, as I have never stripped one down, I can't.

Had some of these on my 88 years ago.I advise you get rid of them,in slippery conditions[ice on road] they tend to slip in and out of lock giving the axle and transfer box a hard time. Also off road going down a steep slope unlocking just when you need the front wheels to hold you back.

Got to agree, mine turned 180 on a snow covered road, unnerved me completely. Got overtaken by a Range Rover, never lived it down. Sure it was the hubs.
Billy

Stripped one today and thought I would post the pics, on the off chance someone has them fitted.

No more different than stripping a hub so straight forward job with no springs or such like flying out!

I did a bit of searching once they were identified as Fairey AFWH and as the last two comments suggest, they ain't too good for certain situations and there are two good examples above.

I will post the findings at the bottom of the pics which explain better for anyone who has these fitted.

Not sure what to do now I know they can do more harm than good in certain situations. I very rarely get to use my Landrover and even rarer would I use it off road so may just whack them back on and think of options at a later date.
At least I am better informed of their good points and bad points.

Front cover off

Housing off exposing business end of FWH

Housing

A very amateurish exploded view

Inner section prior to normal hub bearing set up

All stripped ready for new parts.



Bit I ripped from another site....

These arnt suitable for landrovers that need engine breaking while going downhill towing or offroading, the blurb states:

"it must be remembered that the front wheels free wheel in overun and the engine breaking effect only works throught the rear wheels. If it is felt essential the four wheel engine breaking is required, then you are recommended to fit manual type hubs instead of automatic hubs"

This makes sense as the hubs use a centrifugal clutch type mechanism, so need the drive shafts to be spinning so that the clutch can operate to lock the hubs, of course as soon as you come off the power, there is no power to spin the driveshafts so noting to operate the clutch in the hub, resulting in them dissengaging.

I guess that why you dont find them on landrovers as you loose your downhill breaking on the front axle. Good for mud slugging tho

Thank you for the replies.
I will try change the title of the thread to help any future searches for these odd bits.

What a weird duck these things are!

Just went through this as well myself - the Selectomatic hubs I had on the front of my 109 were just so far past the sell-by that they had to go.

I replaced them with stock parts - needed the drive flanges, hub caps, fuzzy cogs (packing) and the bolts (these are Whit 3/8 - don't try to put in SAE!) made the old bucket go a little slower but it beats oil leaks and grunge.

It's a simple swap - might want to just rid yourself of them. -ajr

When I had these on my 88 and snapped a rear halfshaft while on the road,driving home on the front wheels only was realy weird,steering would pull any which way and when I took my foot off the accelerator landy just went faster!!!