DD and I are going to have a stab at a Toyota engine Hippo. Any inupt would be cool.

I thought that the freelander only went to data bus with the 2004 facelift not the 2001 upgrade?

I can't check cuz I only have the early rave.

Data bus would be an arse to get around I agree, unless the early abs,TC,hdc was used. Then it looks like a piece of wee wee.

Easier on paper than in practice I know.

Nodge68 said:

All Freelander PG1 box gear ratios are the same. The final drive ratio is higher on the L series box. The standard L series makes 177ftlb iirc. The turbo T series will make well over 200 ftlb. Even the NASP T series isn't far short of the L series. You will have a nice long legged cruiser. Or change the final drive out of the 1.8 box

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DD and I both have bigger than stock tyres, DD's are especially big and stupid. I think we might be better off sticking with k series final drive as it would work out pretty close to stock L series at the tyre.

WLJayne said:

DD is especially big and stupid.

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I think that is a but harsh seeing as you are embarking on a big project with him!

Notice the freelancers have a very short 1-2 shift and a long step to 5th.
Don't just look at final drive ratios.

Have a search on the mg-rover forum for " pg1 gearbox info"

Sussed it. T series turbo and an ewp to unleash the extra power!!!!

I know where there's a cheap one

The Mad Hat Man said:

Notice the freelancers have a very short 1-2 shift and a long step to 5th.
Don't just look at final drive ratios.

Have a search on the mg-rover forum for " pg1 gearbox info"

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The ZS180 gearset is about the nicest standard gearset fitted to the PG1 box. That gearset will fit into the L series Freelander box without much work.
I suspect the short 1st / 2nd ratio was choose for off road use as no low range was fitted.

Diesel Do said:

Sussed it. T series turbo and an ewp to unleash the extra power!!!!

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The T series doesn't need an Ewp

But he likes EWPs .

You might find this an interesting read....

177 lbft uprated lol BANG

compared to....

Model 0-60 mph Top Speed BHP
1.8 ESX 5d 11.8 secs 106 mph 115 bhp
2.5 V6i ESX 9.8 secs 113 mph 174 bhp
2.0 Td4 ESX12.8 secs 102 mph 110 bhp
2.0 Td4 ESX13.8 secs 100 mph 110 bhp

The T spec will easily have 173bhp - mind yu i wouldnt want to be doing 114mph in a hippoo . It might get there a bit quicker tho

The manual conversions done on the M-Sport Freelander V6's used standard 1.8 gearboxes with Lotus Elise straight cut gears inside. Maybe this is the thing to use with the T.
But then again I don't have a clue what I'm talking about - no, really, I don't. Just saw the BHP and saw how close the T and Kv6 were.

The uprated PG1 (spec x) has been matched to meet the 240 Nm to which the turbo is limited in the ECU.
Diesel PG1 boxes are spec u and are stronger compared to the turbo box
In the MG ZR TD 115 it has to take a torque of 260Nm

Here are the differences
The NASP box will use 4 bearings only.
The X box will use 5 bearings, you can identify the X box from the lack of retaining plate on the lower mainshaft bearing and confirm by measuring the diameter of the lower mainshaft journal (33mm)
The U box will use 5 bearings, a retaining plater on the lower mainshaft and a journal diameter of 35mm will confirm it is a U spec box.

Ok I've crunched some numbers (well my phone has) on gear ratio differences between the 1.8 final drive ratio and the L series ratio. There isn't a lot in it really.
The fugues in white are the 1.8 final drive ratio in MPH
The figures in blue are the L series final drive ratio MPH
This was using standard 215-65-16 tyres

RealBeale said:

The manual conversions done on the M-Sport Freelander V6's used standard 1.8 gearboxes with Lotus Elise straight cut gears inside. Maybe this is the thing to use with the T.
But then again I don't have a clue what I'm talking about - no, really, I don't. Just saw the BHP and saw how close the T and Kv6 were.

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M sport must have used a specially made box. The standard 1.8 box bell won't fit the KV6 end plate and it's bearings won't last long with the standard 177ftlb running through it.

Nodge68 said:

M sport must have used a specially made box. The standard 1.8 box bell won't fit the KV6 end plate and it's bearings won't last long with the standard 177ftlb running through it.

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Hence the Rakeway conversion to mate the gearbox to the engine.Plus the straight cut Lotus gears in the 1.8 box.

Nodge68 said:

Ok I've crunched some numbers (well my phone has) on gear ratio differences between the 1.8 final drive ratio and the L series ratio. There isn't a lot in it really.
The fugues in white are the 1.8 final drive ratio in MPH
The figures in blue are the L series final drive ratio MPH
This was using standard 215-65-16 tyres

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I might be able to get away with an L series box then as I'm only running 265/70. I don't think it's going to struggle with the available torque from the 220T, or am I barmy??

It will be fine.
It's not just the torque - it's how it's applied .

If do lots of redline dropped clutches then it might complain a bit. Mind yu - plenty of them about. Go for a "u" type box.

The V6 Freelander runs a similar output ratio as the L series. It has no problem with acceleration. As MHM said, go for the standard L series box, it's designed to take 177ftlb or 240nm. With some steel caged bearings is will take more