Crank Handle

Ive been warned not to try to use my crank handle to start up my 1963 Series 2a diesel.

As it may incurr injury to myself.

Is it all that bad?

Can i use it in emergencies if i needed to?
Otherwise i may as well take it out.


Has anyone used one or heard of someone using one?


Thanx,
Carl.

ave used them..if you dunt hold it properly and it kicks back you can say bye bye to yer thumb... if your battery is really that flat yer better off trying to bump start them. rather than trying to crank the fooker fast enough so it willcatch

golden rule is to have your thumb in line with your fingers. not wrapped around the handle as you would do naturally.

difficult to start a diesel with a handle though, for the average chap.
easy if youre a 16 stone irish labourer!

I´we never even thought about crankstarting a LR diesel engine. If the battery is flat, and the engine is cold, it is impossible, because you can´t
glow the glowplugs. If the engine is in good shape it will start without
glowing, when warm. It may be possible. But be careful.
sp

just use the old trick of a flaming rag held against the air intake. whilst cranking.
we used to start dumper trucks this way.

sjr said:

I´we never even thought about crankstarting a LR diesel engine. If the battery is flat, and the engine is cold, it is impossible, because you can´t
glow the glowplugs. If the engine is in good shape it will start without
glowing, when warm. It may be possible. But be careful.
sp

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bollocks.. but it might help if you had a decompression valve

When I think of it.. I guess SLOB is right. It is impossible. Even with warm engine. You just can´t crank it over fast enough.

we used to have these doosul generators fer fueling missiles and stuff . they had no lectrics at all. so no glow plugs. they had an air start and if the air tank was empty you had to hand crank the things. quite easy so long as you remembered to use the de-com lever

Yes, true. Many stationary diesel engines have decompressors (valve lifter type), often automatic. And direct injection diesels start easily without any extra starthelp, even from.cold.

I think it would be dodgey, as said above a lot of stationary engines, dumper engines etc... are crank start, but are quite easy to start.

There are 2 things to look at when hand cranking an engine, first off, is don't chicken out, or you will hurt yourself, either give it a good crank or don't bother.

I have a petter single cylinder engine in the garage, hand crank, basicly you put the fuel governer into overfuel, and listen for the creak of the diesel, once I have got about 10 squirts of diesel in, crank like mad, and throw the compression leaver down as the cylinder is on its way up and bang, it will go. The handle will sit on the engine and go nowhere, and should always be well oiled to ensure it will slide off easily. If you don't wind it fast enough, it will go bang, but overcome the momentum of the flywheel and send it the opposite way, by design the handle will get caught in the grove on the crankshaft and kick up with it, breaking fingers, arms, wrists etc...

With the LR your looking at 4 cylinders, no compression leavers... hmmm.

discomania said:

, basicly .

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can we have the more detailed version please

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I think it would be dodgey, as said above a lot of stationary engines, dumper engines etc... are crank start, but are quite easy to start.

There are 2 things to look at when hand cranking an engine, first off, is don't chicken out, or you will hurt yourself, either give it a good crank or don't bother.

I have a petter single cylinder engine in the garage, hand crank, in detail to make it work: you put the fuel governer into overfuel, start to turn it slowly by hand (30rpm) and listen for the creak of the diesel, once I have got about 10 bryce injector pump measured slugs of diesel into the cylinder, crank it at about 60-70rpm, and lower the compression leaver as the cylinder is on its way up and putt putt putt, it will go. The handle will sit on the engine and go nowhere, and should always be well lubricated to ensure it will slide off easily. If you don't wind it faster than about 50rpm it will go bang, but overcome the momentum of the flywheel and send it the opposite way, by design the handle will get caught in the grove on the crankshaft and kick up with it, breaking Carpal bones, Metacarpals, Humerus, Ulna etc...

With the LR your looking at 4 cylinders, no compression leavers... hmmm.

I know I'm going to get the **** taken for this but have you got a photo atcolandy would probably be interested as well.

Of the petters engine not a cheese sarnie.

heres a piccy of my mates (indian copy), lister 6 hp static diesel engine.

hey up ormus how you doing

all right mate. just finished cleaning the cooker. fecking great eh?

you comin to this **** up next week?

By you do live life to the heights.

Nah I've got to much on before christmas off to Langdale quest on boxing day though, probably a bit far for you for one day.

no way will she let me out on boxing day.
got the whole fecking family coming to eat all my food and drink all my booze too.

Thats a good enough reason to bog off for the day int it? taking you're booze with you.