Caring for your Freelander 1 - let's write it :D

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Of course we could stick to the well tried and tested LZ technique of helping noobs by the usual phraseology of " do a search ya fecking numpty" :D.
 
The Mad Hat Man said:
hence my comments about looking in the FAQ section and the fact that most peeps want the answers spoon fed to them.

that lot is just the tip of the iceberg.
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Part of the issue is that people with a Freelander problem look for the Freelander forum (probably via google) and there is no link here to guide them to FAQs.
Most won't look any further and have no idea of the whole LZ site and the other specific forums.

IINM use of the search box on the Freelander forum defaults to searching the Freelander section and does not search the FAQ section :confused:
 
Chaser said:
Part of the issue is that people with a Freelander problem look for the Freelander forum (probably via google) and there is no link here to guide them to FAQs.
Most won't look any further and have no idea of the whole LZ site and the other specific forums.

IINM use of the search box on the Freelander forum defaults to searching the Freelander section and does not search the FAQ section :confused:
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a) yu can "search this forum" or
b) "search"

But you are wasting yo breath - peeps dont read the stickies at the top of the sub-forum, so why should gaylander owners be any different...
at the top of the FAQ forum there is a sticky saying "dont post in here", yet they do... at the top of the Disco forum there is a sticky saying "wot tyres.." - they still ask the same Q gazillions of times.

Peeps dont want to work - they come on and expect peeps to give them an answer - if they get "search" then they reply" i thought this was meant to be a helpful site......".

Coz I have had enuf flak about not being helpful, if i suggest they look around, I dont bother to answer any more on the common probs - and I know a lot of the old timers do the same.
 
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Sad but true it would seem :(. It's the same problem as every forum has - can you imagine how bad it must be on the MGR forums?!
 
I've pulled alot of useful stuff from there about the dodgy gaskets, just through google searches. It's packed full of good stuff.
 
If you want to collate and write it all out again, it can't hurt.
Fair play to you.:)


you'll need a really big sign to point it out to the noobs though :(
 
I think that's what people have been saying, wouldn't matter if it was the best thing ever written, no bugger would bother to read it. Well I say that, some buggers might. At this point I don't know.
 
Freelaner said:
If you want to collate and write it all out again, it can't hurt.
Fair play to you.:)


you'll need a really big sign to point it out to the noobs though :(
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It strikes me that it'll need more than just been re-written.

Once there, to remove any confusion and unnecessary searching, all the old threads, those it is intended to support, or to replace, will need to be removed from the forum, so any questions get directed and answered by the one NEW thread.

That's a lot of work too....because it would represent about 75% of all Freelander postings!

I also suspect you'd have to have enhanced 'site priviledges' so that the usual daft comments and Freelander ridicule postings could be removed.

The idea of you creating a 'stand-alone' Freelander Guidance site, created by and controlled by yourself, seems more and more preferable, but even that will see it's detractors.

What a lot of the membership have already pointed out, is unfortunately true. When a member is looking for a specific resolution, he's not interested in anything else.

I am just as guilty!

However, I still think it would be a major benefit, and I do hope that you don't loose direction or enthusiasm.

Mike.
 
CB40 said:
It strikes me that it'll need more than just been re-written.

Once there, to remove any confusion and unnecessary searching, all the old threads, those it is intended to support, or to replace, will need to be removed from the forum, so any questions get directed and answered by the one NEW thread.

That's a lot of work too....because it would represent about 75% of all Freelander postings!

I also suspect you'd have to have enhanced 'site priviledges' so that the usual daft comments and Freelander ridicule postings could be removed.

The idea of you creating a 'stand-alone' Freelander Guidance site, created by and controlled by yourself, seems more and more preferable, but even that will see it's detractors.

What a lot of the membership have already pointed out, is unfortunately true. When a member is looking for a specific resolution, he's not interested in anything else.

I am just as guilty!

However, I still think it would be a major benefit, and I do hope that you don't loose direction or enthusiasm.

Mike.
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sorting the wheat from the chaff is going to be a humongus project and i don't envy him.
but if done properly and policed it'll be a gem.




if anyone can be arsed to read it :)
 
It's as simple as this boys, I'll do it if some of you are behind me and wouldn't mind digging up some old threads with me that I can edit for content :). Like I said, I enjoy this stuff and even if one newb comes along and reads it and finds it useful I'd have done a good job. It would be great if it could be a team effort.

If it went into a PDF booket, maybe one of the specialists would host ot on their website or something. At the end of the day it will at least be free advertising for their services and products. I wouldn't be going into Hayne's manual level of detail unless there is something that isn't in the Haynes that needs covering. Any time someone comes along with a question that has been asked tons before and the booklet addresses we could just linky them. Saves us space, time and flaming.

So, working on the assumption that this is a go, how is that chapter list looking? Any suggestions?
 
The Mad Hat Man said:
copyright & plagarism :eek:
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Referncing was bashed into at me uni, never thought I'd use it in the real world. Copyright and IP would be fully respected, and a full bibliography of threads. Not that any bugger would read THAT.

Yes, I would be reinventing the wheel, but it would be a neater wheel that was easier to digest.
 
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WLJayne said:
Hey guys,

So in the "would you trust your awesomelander" thread I put forward the idea of collecting all the amazing information we've had in threads here over the years into one definitive guide. The idea being that when someone turns up asking about whether to buy a used Freelander, or are having trouble with one they already have, this guide would hopefully provide something for them to work from in addition to the Hayne's Manual etc.

Before I go on, I know I'm new here and I'm not trying to throw my weight around or anything or get on anyone's tits - the Freelander has become something of a new hobby for me and I just like writing about my hobbies, and if I can help someone out then I'll be happy. But feel free to flame/ban me if you see fit :D!

The motivation for this is pretty simple, when I started work on the Freelander I had the Hayne's Manual to go on, and although it is a maginficent work and is the definitove guide to taking it apart and hammering it back together, it provides little in the way of telling you what is likely to get toatsed, when it might get toasted and how to tell when it's about to get toasted, which we know all about. Also someone thinking of buying a freelander will be better armed to make a value judgement on a prospective purchase having read a bit of this guide.

Seeing as there's such an enourmous wealth on info in archived threads, this job will be more about compiling, editting and checking than original writing as such. And if a few volunteers were to help me write this then it would be even better - dredging up necrothreads is an involved process, and input from experienced posters would be invaluable as well.

The first job is to identify what areas need to be written about, and contruct a chapter plan, then we can go about hunting down the content. So far this is what I have but ofcourse there is TONS more to add so please do contribute. The aim is to get it to a stage where we can put everythig into a downloadable PDF and then work on it as and when is needed.

Chapter plan so far:

Caring for your Freelander: a Practical guide to owning, operating and maintaining the Land Rover Freelander 1.

1. Introduction to the Freelander 1:
1.1 Basic info, stats and history.
1.2 Is the Freelander right for me?

2. Design Strengths and Weaknesses:
2.1 What Landrover did well.
2.2 What Landrover could have done better.
2.3 What Land Rover really screwed the pooch on (jk :D)

3. Driving for long service life and safety.
3.1 Essential Safety Equipment.
3.2 Good general driving practice.
3.3 How to maximise MPG.
3.4 Harmful driving practices to be avoided.
3.5 Freelander Off-Road Driving

4. What to look for in a used Freelander:
4.1 What to ask the seller.
4.2 Acceptable service history.
4.3 Engine Inspection.
4.4 Transmission Inspection.
4.5 Tyre Inspection.
4.6 Electrical Inspection.
4.7 On the test drive.

5. Exisiting Resources and basic servicing.
5.1 Using the Hayne's Manual.
5.2 Choosing Service Items.

6. Caring for the 1.8 K series Engine and what to watch for:
6.1 An introduction to the K series engine.
6.2 Engine strengths and weaknesses.
6.3 The cooling system, how it works and how it could fail the engine.
6.4 The Head Gasket Failure, detection, causes and prevention.
6.5 Essential Upgrades.
6.6 Good Driving Practice for the K.
6.7 K series troubleshooting and common faults.

7. Caring for the TD4 Diesel Engine and what to watch for:
Need input here, know very little.

8. Caring for the V6 Petrol Engine and what to watch for:
Again know very little.

9. Caring for the Transmission System and what to watch for:
9.1 An introduction to the transmission.
9.2 What is the IRD and how can it fail?
9.3 What is the VCU and how does it fail?
9.4 Caring for the rear differential.
9.5 "What's that noise?" Diagnosing and fixing problems.

10. Electrical System, common faults and fixes:
This could be a big chapter, could use input on it.

11. Parts Suppliers, UK and overseas.

12. Freelander Specialists and trusted garages, UK and overseas.

13. Fun things to do in a Freelander.

So that's what I have for now, of cours it needs alot more, so if we can identify bits that are missing and need to be addressed then we can start filling in those blanks.

Thanks in advance for your support :)!

Will.
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I could not be arsed to read that lot .You get to a stage of looking after the heap, that you learn to live with ome problems .
WLJayne said:
It's as simple as this boys, I'll do it if some of you are behind me and wouldn't mind digging up some old threads with me that I can edit for content :). Like I said, I enjoy this stuff and even if one newb comes along and reads it and finds it useful I'd have done a good job. It would be great if it could be a team effort.

If it went into a PDF booket, maybe one of the specialists would host ot on their website or something. At the end of the day it will at least be free advertising for their services and products. I wouldn't be going into Hayne's manual level of detail unless there is something that isn't in the Haynes that needs covering. Any time someone comes along with a question that has been asked tons before and the booklet addresses we could just linky them. Saves us space, time and flaming.

So, working on the assumption that this is a go, how is that chapter list looking? Any suggestions?
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Just buy a haynes or workshop manual and use the search button .
 
You are an arse, even by Landyzone standards. If you'd bothered to read any of it you would have seen that I'm talking about stuff that isn't in the Hayne's manual. Why bother even posting? I don't mind the banter but a bit of respect wouldn't hurt even if you don't agree with what I'm saying.

Bugger this, I've got better things to do with my time if all I'm gonna get for trying to contribute is a flaming. Maybe if I had 10,000 posts of useless spam and trolling like some here, people might butt out if they've got nout useful to say.

For everyone that contributed usefully to this thread, cheers anyway.
 
WLJayne said:
You are an arse, even by Landyzone standards. If you'd bothered to read any of it you would have seen that I'm talking about stuff that isn't in the Hayne's manual. Why bother even posting? I don't mind the banter but a bit of respect wouldn't hurt even if you don't agree with what I'm saying.

Bugger this, I've got better things to do with my time if all I'm gonna get for trying to contribute is a flaming. Maybe if I had 10,000 posts of useless spam and trolling like some here, people might butt out if they've got nout useful to say.

For everyone that contributed usefully to this thread, cheers anyway.
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3 more posts and you'll be a senior member .:argue:
 
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