Can I have my P38 RR (automatic) TOWED

Daft question:
I have had so many different opinions...
can I tow my RR P38 1998 Automatic away a few meters/yards a mile or so maybe away from RF interference zone as it disables the engine...after a short drive away it clears and engine stars fine?
...I'll throw in Patsy Kensit's Vest and Anne Diamond's Bra in for anyione who can help! Thanks.
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You should be OK for a few hundred yards at a crawling pace (Gear selector in N)- but no more than that.
On a classic rangie - you can drop the transfer box into neutral - but not on the P38 from memory...

The best bet is to remove the aerial for the RF reciever.

iirc you remove fuse 15 in the fuse box put it in neutral and away you go.if i were you i would download a copy of rave i am sure its in there,the AA towed me that way a while ago,pretty sure it was fuse 15 he removed.

gazz

You can select Neutral in the transfer box as follows:

Select Park
Insert a fuse (>5A) in position 11 in the fuse box under the drivers seat
Switch Ign on. After a few seconds, the 'Transfer Neutral' message should come up
Leave the gear selector in Park whilst being towed
To re-engage the transfer box, switch off, remove above fuse, switch on.

Bear in mind towing like this you will have no power steering and virtually no brakes!
There is no limit on distance and speed when towing it like this (the owners manual mentions towing one behind a motorhome - I presume that's the American type of motorhome, not the converted Transists we tend to have....)

All P38's must be put into transferbox neutral before being towed on all four wheels, and must have the prop shaft disconnected from the axle on the ground if being towed with just two wheels on the ground, .e.g on a dolly or spec lift.

The transfer box neutral is selected by putting a fuse into position 11 (5a or more) in the underseat fusebox with the ignition off, once you turn the ignition on you should recieve a transfer neutral message in the dash after a few seconds.

You MUST re-engage the transfer box by removing fuse 11 and selecting Hi or Low range before leaving the vehicle stationary otherwise the transmission/hand brake will not function.

did this fuse in position 11 thing to mine the other day and it wouldn't go into transfer neutral unless I moved the gear selector from P to N... So did that and it was fine, turned it back off, pulled the fuse back out, and turned it on and it selected high again and all ticketty boo...

Have towed my project motor a 100 m or so a couple of times with it in N with no adverse affect

but believe if any further or faster then do fuse position 11 thing

kernowdragon said:

All P38's must be put into transferbox neutral before being towed on all four wheels, and must have the prop shaft disconnected from the axle on the ground if being towed with just two wheels on the ground, .e.g on a dolly or spec lift.

The transfer box neutral is selected by putting a fuse into position 11 (5a or more) in the underseat fusebox with the ignition off, once you turn the ignition on you should recieve a transfer neutral message in the dash after a few seconds.

You MUST re-engage the transfer box by removing fuse 11 and selecting Hi or Low range before leaving the vehicle stationary otherwise the transmission/hand brake will not function.

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Surely the transmission brake will work but on the rear wheels only?
The transmission should be in neutral NOT park.

Datatek said:

Surely the transmission brake will work but on the rear wheels only?
The transmission should be in neutral NOT park.

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Correct the hand brake only ever functions on the rear wheels. Whatever gear the box or transfer box is in has no effect on the hand brake function.

taken from 1996 new RR hope its of help :doh:

"The transmission should be in neutral NOT park"
It definitely says in the owners manual to leave it in Park, not neutral. ("Leave the gear selector in 'P' (Park) at all times while the vehicle is being towed"). It would seem to make sense though to leave it in neutral in case the transfer 'jumped' into gear but I think that would be highly unlikey. In which case, it won't matter where you have the selector. No doubt they have a reason for it though.
I also noticed on the later ones that you have to have your foot on the brake when you switch the ign on after inserting the fuse.

Having done the fuse bit first as stated above...
Yes the auto box MUST be in Park not neutral stops it winding up when being towed at speed according to the Stateside Land Rover dealer I spoke to. We tow our P38 regularly with an A frame, covered a few thousand miles on tow now and cruse at 60 on motorways.

Cheers
Steve

drop the fuse in put it in( n) and get gone ive towed one of mine 2 miles and all was good no probs

wammers said:

Correct the hand brake only ever functions on the rear wheels. Whatever gear the box or transfer box is in has no effect on the hand brake function.

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Hi,

I'm intrigued by this statement. How can a this be? As far as I know the handbrake is operated with a cable. So, if you park and pull your handbrake and drop the suspension why doesn't the brake loosen?

I thought the brake worked on the prop shaft, granted I know nothing but this seems odd to me when cables could get loosened and stretched with the EAS, there must me some cunning trickery at work.

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Woogoo

woogoo said:

Hi,

I'm intrigued by this statement. How can a this be? As far as I know the handbrake is operated with a cable. So, if you park and pull your handbrake and drop the suspension why doesn't the brake loosen?

I thought the brake worked on the prop shaft, granted I know nothing but this seems odd to me when cables could get loosened and stretched with the EAS, there must me some cunning trickery at work.

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Woogoo

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The handbrakes does act on the transmission, which is exactly why it works dispite the EAS. i.e. the transmission doesn't move relative to the rest of the car so doesn't effect the cable. Even if the handbrake acted on the wheels it wouldn't be effected by changes in height, as all things are relative...... i.e. although the whole cable might move, as long as the inner doesn't move relative to the outer the brake would still hold.

kernowdragon said:

The handbrakes does act on the transmission, which is exactly why it works dispite the EAS. i.e. the transmission doesn't move relative to the rest of the car so doesn't effect the cable. Even if the handbrake acted on the wheels it wouldn't be effected by changes in height, as all things are relative...... i.e. although the whole cable might move, as long as the inner doesn't move relative to the outer the brake would still hold.

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.Citroen had quite a problem with one of their models releasing the hand brake as the suspension dropped
As you say, with the transmission brake that can't happen.

kernowdragon said:

The handbrakes does act on the transmission, which is exactly why it works dispite the EAS. i.e. the transmission doesn't move relative to the rest of the car so doesn't effect the cable. Even if the handbrake acted on the wheels it wouldn't be effected by changes in height, as all things are relative...... i.e. although the whole cable might move, as long as the inner doesn't move relative to the outer the brake would still hold.

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Ah! Well that explains it then, and thanks, I appreciate the reply.

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Woogoo

not a daft question at all,and I had the very same one.but looks like you got some great answers and straightforward advice from the guys on here which means I did to thanks guys

Yup, four years later and the same questions keep coming up.
Congratulations on using the search rather than just sticking a new thread up.