Can I drive around on this land?

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DIFFLOCK66

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Seeing as I now own a vehicle capable of accessing the area of land I'm on about :D :p (see below) can I do so without getting into trouble. Not the getting stuck kind of trouble, but the irate people and authority kind of trouble :eek:

https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=Bl...e+UK&t=h&hnear=Bleasdale,+United+Kingdom&z=17

The quarry area is bounded by the orange border and coloured with the tint that denotes public access land on an OS Explorer map. Just that, no BOATs, FPS or anything. If you look on the google maps pic - the small gravel area at the NE corner is a car park, and the track comes off that to the NW, up a steep incline initally which is 4x4 only ;) I took the Disco up it, turned round and came back down. A bit cheeky but I've never tested HDC or TC up to now! I wasn't going to drive any further without at least consulting the font of LZ knowledge.

Saying that, there is the extremely rusted remains of what appears to be a Rover Metro back axle down the cliff and further into the quarry some kind of small OHC engine (K series??) well overgrown. A couple ofwhite goods have also been fly tipped at the bottom of the cliff! I also spotted on my walkabout motocross tyre tracks and mountain bike tracks, but the place was deserted yesterday evening. Just because some two-wheeled knobheads have whizzed about in there, doesn't mean I want to be a 4 wheel knobhead !! :(

I know nothing's set in stone, but I want to be sure I'm reading the map right if nothing else.

Besides it would be a great place to take my 1:10 scale Rc Rock crawler to play :D

Thanks,
Diff.
 
I very much doubt it without the express permission of the land owner and I wouldn't suggest taking a single vehicle in...

Just because most of the Dark Peak is access land doesn't mean there's any right to take a landy to the top of Kinder or Bleaklow...
 
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basically if you dont own the land then you need to ask permission, we dont have any kind of land in this country where you can just go driving around.
 
Just thought I'd give an update about this quarry, and a tale :D Get a brew and pull up a chair if you like!

After a chance meeting with another Disco owner in the area recently (he'd just seen me exiting the UCR near the quarry), I asked him if he might know who owned it and why I was interested. He gave me a name of a guy (Frank - name changed to protect the innocent!)who would know, if indeed it wasn't Frank himself. I went to see farmer Frank and yes, he knew the quarry well! Turns out his deceased father had thought about putting his name to it. However, the authorities said that he could not do anything to the land, just leave it as is, so he never bothered. Said that another farmer, now deceased, might have put his name forward. About 15 years ago, the Countryside Rangers installed the gate at the southern end.

Remember previously in this thread I'd mentioned an old car's remains near the cliff face? It's a Ford Orion apparently; Frank needed a bit of exhaust for his Escort, knew about the car and went down & liberated the appropriate piece of pipe :cool:

Finally contacted the department responsible for managing the quarry (Wyre) today. Had a pleasant chat with the chap on the phone. They wish it to remain as a bit of a nature reserve and would ask that people be discouraged from taking vehicles on it. He said no doubt you've noticed the bike tracks? Yes. We're not out watching the site all the time so these things happen, but if we (Rangers) are there then we ask them to leave.
So, if someone was being a real arse you don't have the power to actually stop them? No, not really...
:eek: Interesting

I would think that if someone was being a right twoc (trattering without owner's consent), then the police could get involved on some level; public nuisance, section 59 or such?

I thanked the chap for his time & clarification of the land usage, and assured him I wouldn't be taking my Disco on there for a play around.

I'm not about being a total #### to spoil it for the rest of us!

In fact he did actually recommend the local UCR which I've already been down a few times and posted about in the laning section :D :D
 
Nice one mate.

That's the way to go about things, politely enquire and follow it through, then go along with their expressed wishes. If he'd said yes, it was OK to drive it, ask for an email/letter saying exactly that .. for passing noseys .. ;)
 
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