stanleymann
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Ah Belize, once got the choice of 4 months in Belize or 4 months in the Falklands. Hell of a hard decision!
Asda, stuck HGV, and a scenario.
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so with the right pull ratio you could move yer artic with a discoormus said:
But how do these strains relate to the strain of pulling a stranded fellow landy out of the mud on a pay&play etc? At the end of the day probably 30%+ of the people on here would hitch a stuck mate up and pull them out of mud upto the eyeballs (some of you may even snatch it out!). It's not like any of us are talking about pulling a truck for 20miles, were only talking about a pull to the verge or onto solid ground. & didn't the police originally justify buying Rangies with "we can pull a 44tonner off the mway in an emergency"? I even recall someone suggesting that was the excuse of the HA wombles driving Disco3's hundreds of miles to knowhere.
And finally relating to the original point - if the truck was leaving asda logic says it was probably empty (they tend to take stuff out and put it on the shop shelves) so didn't weigh a full 44T anyway.
And finally relating to the original point - if the truck was leaving asda logic says it was probably empty (they tend to take stuff out and put it on the shop shelves) so didn't weigh a full 44T anyway.
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7:1 factor of safety for lifting m8
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very true james but just think of the strasin putting on all of your vehichles components just for the driver to say, thanks mate. i bet he wouldnt say heres 50 quid for the wear and tear on your car, it may sound harsh but i say **** em let the recovery boys sort em out
Too Right !!
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Barring the fact that this post has been resurrected from 4 years ago, can we not all just accept that while an HGV could possibly weigh up to 44,000kg - you aren't trying to lift it in the air, just pull it along on it's wheels (if it's on ice the wheels will still roll, the limiting factor will be your grip - if you can't grip you won't be able to pull owt!) which will probably be no worse than pulling a trailer with a large car on it...
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the disco 1 pulled a train for the press release.
You'll lose grip before you rip the chassis in half, or the towbar off, unless its so corroded that it shouldn't be on the road anyway. If you're on the level and smooth surface, all you're doing is overcoming the rolling resistance of its 18 wheels or so, with your 4 wheels.
Being bogged down in mud is different, and depends on a lot of other factors such as - is the stuck car also spinning all 4 wheels (or is it broken down?) - is the chassis sitting on the mud too, meaning there will be a shear force to overcome - is there any slope involved, eg has the stuck car "dug itself down" or obstacles like tree roots, etc etc. Every off road recovery is slightly different.
Being bogged down in mud is different, and depends on a lot of other factors such as - is the stuck car also spinning all 4 wheels (or is it broken down?) - is the chassis sitting on the mud too, meaning there will be a shear force to overcome - is there any slope involved, eg has the stuck car "dug itself down" or obstacles like tree roots, etc etc. Every off road recovery is slightly different.
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Going by some of the previous answers, The number of trucks my 110's pulled it ought to be a 130 by now.
Not til you posted this, found it by accident and saw a mention of snow / ice and it just seemed to fit. Oh well
I was meaning in a general sense - eg. 44T rolling is equivalent to pulling a Landy in mud upto its hubs? arches? bonnet? roof? Obviously we can't calculate the exact effect of mud as every puddle of mud is different but I just wandered in a rough sense how bad a rolling load can be compared to a stuck one when we wouldn't pull a truck but would pull a landy.
Not that I'm saying I'd fancy pulling 44T on my Disco hitch.
Unless you saw it happen or have driven that particular piece of land, you simply couldn't tell how much force a "stuck" 4x4 needs to pull it out, in an off road situation. You'd be able to make a fairly accurate judgement on how much pull a 44t truck would need on tarmac, though. Another factor is traction - on tarmac pulling a lorry, you'll have plenty of traction so your transmission would be under more stress than in a typical off road situation, where you will probably spin wheels instead of breaking anything, if the stuck one is deeply bogged down. In reality, you'd not really risk breaking anything, but you'd be putting abnormal wear on the clutch, and might overheat it in the process of trying. If it were auto you may overheat the transmission fluid.
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Robin & a chap in a landcruiser pulled a jack knifed tesco artic up a short slope and onto the main road in the Ice & snow last month.
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why didn't robin use his landy to do it.:doh:
Oh yeah. He was being the ballast in the land cruiser.
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im must admit i av wanted to help a few people out now and again but as they avent had the correct tow rope or out, i havent helped them (i have a 4tone tow rope)
but after this post i dont think i will help them ...
but while we are on the topic of towin wat is the most ur disco could pull .... daft question but i would like to know ???
cheers anthony
but after this post i dont think i will help them ...
but while we are on the topic of towin wat is the most ur disco could pull .... daft question but i would like to know ???
cheers anthony
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