Another Ebay 'darling'. Legit or blatant ringer?

Please discuss.....

Land Rover Special Hybrid Long MOT 90 Defender TD5 Series | eBay

Its little wonder it takes me five minutes to fit all the security to my 110. Still folk are happy to bid.

I was led to believe a vehicle chassis determined it's id, so 88" chassis doesn't equal a Y reg.

Custom chassis - not 88"

Not a td5 chassis though ,the guy could of just done a heap of work swapping the dash ,engine and everything else over

It looks genuine enough to me.

The Mad Hat Man said:

Custom chassis - not 88"

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I think that's supposed to read:

Custom made chassis-mounted full roll cage.

and not custom made chassis.

wickford90 said:

I was led to believe a vehicle chassis determined it's id, so 88" chassis doesn't equal a Y reg.

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Y reg (suffix) would be 1982. s111 88" were produced from "72 to "85. I suspect the registration number is the only thing dating to this period on the vehicle.

What's wrong with that? Looks like a good Landy that someone's put a lot of work into!

waldershelf said:

Y reg (suffix) would be 1982. s111 88" were produced from "72 to "85. I suspect the registration number is the only thing dating to this period on the vehicle.

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My mistake didn't check the reg, I assumed a Y prefix as its a td5.

I see nothing wrong with it, I could understand if it looked like he had just put older vehicle plates on a new vehicle but this has clearly been somebodies project, I have a ongoing project 1965 series 2a that has been sitting on a cut down Range Rover Classic chassis since the 80's, I am intending to fit my 200tdi to this vehicle, having vosa approved papers and both V5's , these are built not bought vehicle's, you can tell the difference

Sadly Mr Plod would see it at as illegal - at best a Q plate if you can establish where all the parts came from, although for those who really know their landrovers its clear this was a white TD5 90 pickup that has been given the Tangiers Orange 'hidden/stolen in plain sight' treatment.

Always nice to read the posts from those who are clearly quite happy to tolerate the ongoing theft/ringing of Defenders in the UK.

Yep, me and the others love having our Landies stolen! If you don't want to hear other people's opinions then don't ask, go and call the police.

Granted it's not very original, but it weren't white (well the bulkhead wasn't anyway! Unless they took the engine out to spray it red to throw us off the scent).

bluedog333 said:

Yep, me and the others love having our Landies stolen! If you don't want to hear other people's opinions then don't ask, go and call the police.

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Seems to be you struggling with Crowmanns opinion

The bottom line is that vehicle is almost definitely illegal. Being extremely generous it could have been build up with chassis mods, should have been inspected (no mention) and possibly on a 'Q'

Being not so generous it could easily be someone's beloved TD5, stolen, re plated with a dead Series ID and modded.

It happens......a lot

Anyone that buys that without a thorough chassis inspection and following a paper trail could very easily be financing the next Defender theft.

If you don't look too hard you won't know and if you know anything about LR's it's because you don't want to know

bluedog333 said:

Granted it's not very original, but it weren't white (well the bulkhead wasn't anyway! Unless they took the engine out to spray it red to throw us off the scent).

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If you look closely at the 2nd from last pic there is evidence that the engine bay has been resprayed

Me and three others above. I'm not arguing about it. Maybe it should be a Q plate, that wasn't the original point though.

bluedog333 said:

Me and three others above. I'm not arguing about it. Maybe it should be a Q plate, that wasn't the original point though.

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The point is who knows without a lot of investigation?

Can you say what in that ad tells you it's not a stolen TD5?

blue beasty said:

The point is who knows without a lot of investigation?

Can you say what in that ad tells you it's not a stolen TD5?

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I thinks that's a fair point, we don't really know. Hypothetically, is it possible to trace the original TD5 through the engine number?

I'm not running away from the discussion but I am buggering off to work. See ya

bluedog333 said:

I thinks that's a fair point, we don't really know. Hypothetically, is it possible to trace the original TD5 through the engine number?

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I don't know but it'd be easy enough to tell whether it's really a Series chassis. If it's not you have to start asking serious questions about why would they pretend it is?