10K to spend 30K miles per year

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FL2 D3 D4 RRL322

  • FL2 TD4

    Votes: 2 18.2%

  • FL2 SD4 much betterererer than the TD4?

    Votes: 4 36.4%

  • D3 2.7

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • D3 3.0 More power than the 2.7

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • D4 3.0 if possible for the cash

    Votes: 4 36.4%

  • RR L322 Doozil

    Votes: 1 9.1%
  • Total voters
    11
neilly said:
Fair enuff, let me explain .

Wear and tear , replacement and maintenance is fine, a prop is wear and tear, those will be done as and when I am not looking to kill it, notice in the OP I state when / if it dies / catastrophic failure. If it suffers a major failure that takes it off the road , then spending time fixing it will not be an option and a replacement will be needed sharpish, reason for the OP.

Doing a daily commute of 85 Miles with business miles on top in a soft top 90 is not really viable. So I am not using the toy while I fix the D2 if it dies. :p

Cheers
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How are you paying for the fuel and maintenance of a car covering this distance? Assuming an average working year of 260 working days. 85 miles/day is just over 22,000 miles a year.

However to cover 30,000 miles a year at say 28mpg is 1071 gallons. At approx £5.72/gallon that is £6126 on fuel per year.

The newer LR models will offer better comfort, refinement and arguably road handling & manners. But the likes of an L322 or D3/RRS will require more maintenance costs to cover this distance, as parts are more complex and more costly on the whole. A Freelander on the whole should be cheaper to run, better on fuel and less demanding on maintenance costs.

I would think trying to find a vehicle with as low miles on as possible might be a good idea. No point buying a high miler to then add lots more miles.

I'd say maybe look out for a 3.2 litre Freelander 2. It'll be smoother and nicer than the diesel variants and if paying for the fuel is not an issue really, then it's not a problem. And I suspect on a run the 3.2 isn't so far behind what a Td5 is doing mpg wise (and similar to a Td6 L322). The Td4 FL2 will be the most frugal and probably 10mph better than a D3 and more over the L322.
 
FL2 SD4, nice comfortable car for the money, eats Mway miles, offers the comfort & seating position that is much safer and I find less fatiguing on long runs and above all else offers miles better economy, the 4wd & TC systems will be very useful in the event of inclement weather or just the urge to drive a lane on the way home.
 
300bhp/ton said:
How are you paying for the fuel and maintenance of a car covering this distance? Assuming an average working year of 260 working days. 85 miles/day is just over 22,000 miles a year.

However to cover 30,000 miles a year at say 28mpg is 1071 gallons. At approx £5.72/gallon that is £6126 on fuel per year.

The newer LR models will offer better comfort, refinement and arguably road handling & manners. But the likes of an L322 or D3/RRS will require more maintenance costs to cover this distance, as parts are more complex and more costly on the whole. A Freelander on the whole should be cheaper to run, better on fuel and less demanding on maintenance costs.

I would think trying to find a vehicle with as low miles on as possible might be a good idea. No point buying a high miler to then add lots more miles.

I'd say maybe look out for a 3.2 litre Freelander 2. It'll be smoother and nicer than the diesel variants and if paying for the fuel is not an issue really, then it's not a problem. And I suspect on a run the 3.2 isn't so far behind what a Td5 is doing mpg wise (and similar to a Td6 L322). The Td4 FL2 will be the most frugal and probably 10mph better than a D3 and more over the L322.
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17K is commute no matter where I go, the rest is Business miles at 45p/mile for 10K and the rest at iirc 25p / mile.

dieseldog69 said:
FL2 SD4, nice comfortable car for the money, eats Mway miles, offers the comfort & seating position that is much safer and I find less fatiguing on long runs and above all else offers miles better economy, the 4wd & TC systems will be very useful in the event of inclement weather or just the urge to drive a lane on the way home.
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Is coming out top on my list atm. When I look at them, not a lot of size difference between the D2 and the FL2 as well.

Cheers
 
The SD4 diesel FL2 gives the same performance of the 3.2 i6 petrol but with higher mpg. It's not just eggscelleration from 0 that's good. 40 to 70mpg is good anorl. SD4 only available in auto gearbox where as TD4 FL2 has er bit less power with auto or manwel option. i6 stopped int 2008 and there int many about. Auto only. All FL2's have 6 gears regardless of gearbox.

When peeps ask me wot vehicle ter buy eye always ask about running costs and maintenance. The bigger lr's are nice to drive but that comes at a price. A price that reflects the car when sold new. The bigger lr's eat brake disks and pads and suspension bushes. It's how they corner so well un stop so quick.

If yer can keep up with regular maintenance yerself then this reduces running costs but the high miles yer do may be difficult to do this if yer got a family etc.

As a die ard freelanderer eye would say the FL2 is the betterer option. But before that eye would say something cheaper to run like a Mondeo or similar size Peugeot. Yer could get an eggstra 20mpg and cheaper maintenance costs.

That said the larger lr's are more complex with hair suspension and more stuff to go wrong. As said above engine failure is very eggspensive. All cars can fail but the bigger lr's do have a special way of doing so. They look good and have a good stance regardless of being broken down ont side of the road with bonnet up or when off road ont back of a recovery truck.

Also watch out fer road tax and tyre cost. Elastic band tyres aint cheap ont some of the wheel sizes fer big lr's.

FL2 has been said to be the most reliable LR of recent decades by parts staff at 3 main dealers. That's down to wot and how many parts they sell private and supply to their workshop.

Bit smaller than the Disco/RR/rrs but eye guess yer dun't carry passengers a lot of the time. Boot space is reasonable and the spare wheel is intside under the boot floor cover.

FL2 was always comfortable. The MY11 onwards models had the interior updates and SD4 available. As a vehicle to live with they're comfortable and nice to drive. Higher percentage FL2 with auto gearbox compared to FL1. Visibility is good and road manners ont motorway good. 50 to 90mph feels effortless on yer private country estate but mpg will drop and wear will int crease at such speeds. Never try that ont road.

Oft road borh the FL1 and FL2 can go oft road ok. FL2 is more modern intside. Overall not a bad package and er shame they stopped production int October 2014.

Depending ont model level the FL2 has the same sort of kit intside like the bigger lr''s. Active cornering enhancement and stability control etc all int cluded.
 
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Hippo said:
Tis a pleasure ter convert another tratterer to freelandering ;)
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Now , now, lets not get silly and ideas above the station of a freelanderer...LOL:p

Not converting a tratter owner as the tratter will still be here on the drive lording it over the poor D2 replacement left out on the dark road, whether that be a FL2 remains to be seen.....but is a promising option.;);)

Cheers
 
neilly said:
Now , now, lets not get silly and ideas above the station of a freelanderer...LOL:p

Not converting a tratter owner as the tratter will still be here on the drive lording it over the poor D2 replacement left out on the dark road, whether that be a FL2 remains to be seen.....but is a promising option.;);)

Cheers
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Eye will reserve yer a ticket at this year's Freelander owners Christmas party.
 
Considering a hippo mk2 to replace the wife's 2009 1 series coupe. Back up tow vehicle for when we go long distance in the van. Or when the tratter ****s itself. Probably similar mpg round town as the bmw?
 
Hippo said:
The SD4 diesel FL2 gives the same performance of the 3.2 i6 petrol but with higher mpg. It's not just eggscelleration from 0 that's good. 40 to 70mpg is good anorl. SD4 only available in auto gearbox where as TD4 FL2 has er bit less power with auto or manwel option. i6 stopped int 2008 and there int many about. Auto only. All FL2's have 6 gears regardless of gearbox.

When peeps ask me wot vehicle ter buy eye always ask about running costs and maintenance. The bigger lr's are nice to drive but that comes at a price. A price that reflects the car when sold new. The bigger lr's eat brake disks and pads and suspension bushes. It's how they corner so well un stop so quick.

If yer can keep up with regular maintenance yerself then this reduces running costs but the high miles yer do may be difficult to do this if yer got a family etc.

As a die ard freelanderer eye would say the FL2 is the betterer option. But before that eye would say something cheaper to run like a Mondeo or similar size Peugeot. Yer could get an eggstra 20mpg and cheaper maintenance costs.

That said the larger lr's are more complex with hair suspension and more stuff to go wrong. As said above engine failure is very eggspensive. All cars can fail but the bigger lr's do have a special way of doing so. They look good and have a good stance regardless of being broken down ont side of the road with bonnet up or when off road ont back of a recovery truck.

Also watch out fer road tax and tyre cost. Elastic band tyres aint cheap ont some of the wheel sizes fer big lr's.

FL2 has been said to be the most reliable LR of recent decades by parts staff at 3 main dealers. That's down to wot and how many parts they sell private and supply to their workshop.

Bit smaller than the Disco/RR/rrs but eye guess yer dun't carry passengers a lot of the time. Boot space is reasonable and the spare wheel is intside under the boot floor cover.

FL2 was always comfortable. The MY11 onwards models had the interior updates and SD4 available. As a vehicle to live with they're comfortable and nice to drive. Higher percentage FL2 with auto gearbox compared to FL1. Visibility is good and road manners ont motorway good. 50 to 90mph feels effortless on yer private country estate but mpg will drop and wear will int crease at such speeds. Never try that ont road.

Oft road borh the FL1 and FL2 can go oft road ok. FL2 is more modern intside. Overall not a bad package and er shame they stopped production int October 2014.

Depending ont model level the FL2 has the same sort of kit intside like the bigger lr''s. Active cornering enhancement and stability control etc all int cluded.
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How many pigs can you fit in, if you ditch all yer curling tongs?
 
1988smithy said:
Considering a hippo mk2 to replace the wife's 2009 1 series coupe. Back up tow vehicle for when we go long distance in the van. Or when the tratter ****s itself. Probably similar mpg round town as the bmw?
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We dun't let any ole riff raff inter freelandering
 
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