Freelander 1 Anyone sorted key chip cloning??

Yes it does. However the fact that a keychip paired to a SAWDOC immo can be cloned proves nothing about your EWS3D system. It's a different keychip and a different immo ECU.

All of the googling that I have done indicates that the Freelander 2000-2003 with EWS3D immo uses an ID46 chip, and on BMW forums they are saying that they can be cloned.
There is a thread on here saying the same
https://www.landyzone.co.uk/land-rover/what-is-inside-the-key.325494/

My son has a 2004 TD4 Facelift, and managed to get a non-fob key cut & programmed by a local car key specialist. Works perfectly. Blank fob seemed to program ok, but stopped working two weeks later. Not sure why, but the key still works fine a year later.

pwood999 said:

My son has a 2004 TD4 Facelift, and managed to get a non-fob key cut & programmed by a local car key specialist. Works perfectly. Blank fob seemed to program ok, but stopped working two weeks later. Not sure why, but the key still works fine a year later.

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A 2004 almost certainly has a SAWDOC immobiliser. Andy is trying to clone a key chip for an EWS3D based car.

Sorry to hear Andy hope you can get it sorted out with the suppliers. As mine is a MY2004 it's may be why Timpsons said they can do mine for me, if not as I said I'll just get a key cut & keep it on board somewhere.

Hello Andy, not sure if you've come across that bloke here?

Hi, unfortunately this is for the remote fobs & not the ignition key itself which is what @andyfreelandy was hoping to clone.

Thanks, can already do fobs. Easy!!

Andy Warren said:

Hi, unfortunately this is for the remote fobs & not the ignition key itself which is what @andyfreelandy was hoping to clone.

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Oh right, ok. The transponder inside the key, got it.

Just a further heads up on this one.
Desperate to get a second key for my lad's yellow 1.8 F1.
Couldn't do it as above so went to Timpsons. They ordered a blank, put it on a machine which apparently copied the chip in the key in seconds.
Suspiciously, I tried it in the car and 2 problems.
1. Key blank has a shorter recess than original so fits door, ignition but not fuel cap where key goes in further.
2. Chip hasn't worked as no cranking when key put into position 3.
Cost £70.

They refunded in full for non operation.
If anyone knows who can do F1 keys that work please post.

Have you tried parts dept at an LR main dealer?

From what has been said above, my reading is that the only way with the 'EWS3D' is to speak to LR - or get replacement engine ECU, immobiliser ECU and keys. I wonder if a later ECU and SAWDOC immobiliser will work in a EWS3D manufactured car?

This is going to be a big problem going forward if LR can not (or chose not to) continue to supply keys. It will also be a problem for all cars of the era and for enthusiasts wanting to buy a car and keep them on the road. I wonder if companies will start selling their own proprietary engine ECUs to replace car's originals? Its a complex beast as they link to ABS, dashboard displays etc - as well as the engine's sensors and controls (eg injectors). Each car will be different.

The EWS3D can be hacked, but if must be removed from the car to do so, which is not a trivial amount of work.

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