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AND it's got a relay in it!!!!
No seriously, it has instructions. If you follow them this will help you with any other relay you end up having to play with.
You could get two kits and use the other for your blower!
Go for it! and the best of luck.
 
Have you drawn it up yet?

Are you switching them from the cab or using reverse lamps to trigger them?

Are you running a fused feed direct from the better into the back or are you using the extra power off the trailer socket wiring?
 
AND it's got a relay in it!!!!
No seriously, it has instructions. If you follow them this will help you with any other relay you end up having to play with.
You could get two kits and use the other for your blower!
Go for it! and the best of luck.[/QUOT
Thanks Mate So would one kit do both rear spots together ? I still think there a simple solution that I'm missing for my Blower. Would the wire Gauge on these kits be suitable for my Blower ? as the red wire on mine is quite thick coming out of blower.
 
"... the better..." are we in the betting shop now?
Sorry, think he meant battery! Other stuff he said was good serious questions.
Unfortunately I am switched to "silly" at the moment.
 
Have you drawn it up yet?

Are you switching them from the cab or using reverse lamps to trigger them?

Are you running a fused feed direct from the better into the back or are you using the extra power off the trailer socket wiring?
Not sure Mate I have a spare switch in cab to attach them to, don't really want them wired to Reverse lights. Just want them on as and when using switch.
 
I'm useless at electric string but managed to wire in a rear work light, so have faith. The switch is even connected to the light circuit so it illuminates when the lights are switched on. Just fire a live from the switch and then earth from the rear body and Bob's yer tea pot.
 
@border you do love to live dangerously don't you? Asking me serious questions when I am on "silly". So I'll swallow a drain rod and get serious.

The kit for the work lights will expect you to have two I'd a thought, and anyway they will only be no brighter than say two driving lamps, so yes, one relay will be enough for two lights.

Love dieseldogg's idea of switching them from the reversing light wire. Brilliant. Then you cannot drive off illegally with them still on. But in order for them not to come on every time you put the lever into reverse, you will need another switch in the wire.

But you still need a serious feed.

Personally I'd run a fused feed from the batt or some other point that you can expect to provide a lot of power, look for stuff with a high amp fuse. Maybe from the accessory plug wire. The fatter the brown wire, the more power it will be supplying. (Oops, a bit silly again)

As for the blower, the power the blower uses will be higher for a short while when it is first switched on then settle down to a lower power consumption. Power is measured in Watts, which is the following sum, Watts = voltage x current. So 12 volts times 6 amps = 72 watts. You cannot sensibly get more than 12 volts to much on a 12 volt vehicle, obviously, so the current flowing through the thing you are powering up decrees how much power it can use. If the power is high but you try to draw it through too thin a wire, the wire heats up and this means its initial resistance gets even higher. So eventually it burns through. This is how a fuse works. It is designed to blow when too much power is drawn through the circuit. This is a safe way of doing what I just described, rather than letting some part of the wiring burn through and possibly set fire to whatever it is near.
A relay allows a thin wire to be used to switch bigger power than it itself could handle on its own.
The thicker wires to the relay provide the big power to the blower or whatever while the two thinner wires simply do the switching.
Google "how an electrical relay works" to get a better explanation, as I am not a physics teacher! https://www.google.com/search?q=wir.....69i57j0l4.6089j0j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
As for the wire gauge to your blower, does the kit list the actual gauge of the wires that come with it? I just looked, no, is the answer, although the fuse is 15 amps and the relay is 30 amp. So 15 x 12 = 180, i.e. the fuse will blow if more than 180 watts is drawn through it. Now the blower is fused by a 20 amp fuse, so peak power must be under 240 watts. Your existing 30 amp relay is therefore fine, but you cannot use the same kit for the blower.

But you already have a switch and a relay. The problem is the wiring.

You already have advice about how to sort this out. Reread it and remember you need to test both sides of a connection to see if it is sound or not. You have power to the relay, you have a switch that works and the earths are sound. So it looks to me as if it is the relay itself or the relay holder that is the problem. That it where I would look first, for bad connections. but I'd test the relay by taking out a known good 30 amp relay from somewhere else like the headlight washer relay and replacing it with the one you have for the blower. If the head lamp washers work with your blower relay then you know it is good.

Then you can check every single connection on the relay holder. Go back to the previous thread on this and use a paperclip opened out stuck into the 30 and 87 female slots in the relay holder, if the blower now works, with no other connections, you know the connections there are OK. Which more or less tells you that the problem is to do with either the switch, or the feed to the switch, or the wire from the switch to the 86 slot, or from the 85 slot to earth. all of these can be tested with your meter. Use volts first to see if you get live, which you'll only get once the key is turned to last but one position, then use it set to resistance, ohms across each connection, across the switch and from the end of the earth wire to the switch to the earth or another earth. These should all read nearly 0 to prove you have a good connection. The switch should show 0 ohms when "on" and be infinity, when the switch is "off".

If the relay is good and rhe relay holder is good, then it all should work and work safely.

I think this is enough for you to be going on with, it is for me!!
 
My God That's a lot to take in for me but will take my time and try and remember.
Anyway I've ordered this one off my wife's Amazon Thingy,Amazon product with a bit of luck she will not notice, as she is always ordering stuff from there, its coming on Wednesday so Ill catch the post when she's at work:D.
It looks a lot easier for me as it is already built up, just a matter of plugging it in, I think :rolleyes: After figuring out which the best way to route the wires up to the switch in Cab.
 

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Well What I thought was going to be a quite easy Plug in is Not, well not to me anyway as I'm hopeless at stuff like this. o_O I've numbered the connections hope it makes sense.
From what I can gather, Number 1 is for Switch, 3 Relay to Battery, in engine bay, I think. 4 and 5 to both Spots on back. Cant understand where the hell number 2 goes.
Or is there a simple explanation. ??
 

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Ok I’ve got this I think, the instructions make sense to me
Assume you can identify the switch and relay
The switch has 5 connectors so look for the ends which has 2 black, 2 white and a red follow the numbered connections
The C connectors go to battery positive (reds) and negative battery or good earth ( Blacks)
The reds and blacks 2 pairs from relay go to lights or light bars
Does this make a bit more. Sense
 
Ok, so the colour of the wire the connection will tell us if it a positive or negative ie red or black, and at the other end of this wire the type connection found there will identify where or what it connects to.
Its black on the metal C connector that's sticking out.
Ok I’ve got this I think, the instructions make sense to me
Assume you can identify the switch and relay
The switch has 5 connectors so look for the ends which has 2 black, 2 white and a red follow the numbered connections
The C connectors go to battery positive (reds) and negative battery or good earth ( Blacks)
The reds and blacks 2 pairs from relay go to lights or light bars
Does this make a bit more. Sense
Number 1 is the Switch connectors, it has the 5 wires, 2 white, 2 black and 1 red. Now I have just realized that where the Relay number 3 is on the loom that it cant go to the engine bay as it is situated just down from where it should connect to REAR spots, wonder if this was made for Front Spots or Light Bar, as it seems the wrong way round for Rear Spots
 
I can understand the circuit... The white coming back from the switch is the switched positive, that turns on the relay. Pull back the black sleeving and you should see what colour cable the "hidden" spade connectors are... Looks like the spade connectors, two reds and two blacks, connect to the battery... one pair feed the switch, the other pair feed the relay, which turn on the relay via the white...

edit, as posted, this look like a front light bar loom...
 
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