P38A becm disabled still asks for keycode

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mjb.thomassen

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In an earlier thread a had a becm lockout .I had no keycode and tried syncmate.
I found the previous owner and he told me becm immobiliser was disabled .I phoned his garage and they told me the becm was send to a specialist to disable the becem.
Well the display asks now for a keycode and cannot start the car.What can disturb the becm. Is it necessary to send the becm to the specialist again, or ask faultmate msv 2 to reset the becm
Maybe the becm is disturbed by other problems which showed up during lockout problems.
.central locking: all doors do not open when I turn the key by central locking system(remote is disabled)
front doors open mechanicly , back doors do not open mechanicly
All doors close or click by central locking.
 
I think you need to get either the land rover test book on it or a NANOCM diagnostics as they can enable or disable the imobilizer and alarm .and also check the sync
 
In an earlier thread a had a becm lockout .I had no keycode and tried syncmate.
I found the previous owner and he told me becm immobiliser was disabled .I phoned his garage and they told me the becm was send to a specialist to disable the becem.
Well the display asks now for a keycode and cannot start the car.What can disturb the becm. Is it necessary to send the becm to the specialist again, or ask faultmate msv 2 to reset the becm
Maybe the becm is disturbed by other problems which showed up during lockout problems.
.central locking: all doors do not open when I turn the key by central locking system(remote is disabled)
front doors open mechanicly , back doors do not open mechanicly
All doors close or click by central locking.
Use your Faultmate turn off the EKA code and the immobiliser in the BECM, should get you going. Key will only operate the drivers door in the current situation.
 
Is it normal(what is normal for a p38) after 1,5 years and a 300 euro reprogramming of the becm everything starts all over again ha ha ha
 
Is it normal(what is normal for a p38) after 1,5 years and a 300 euro reprogramming of the becm everything starts all over again ha ha ha

No. However, BECM has been known to get corrupted with low volts so anything is possible. If default language has switched to french (and it wasn't before) then it is corrupted.

1515 was the code used in NAS vehicles for EKA. Might be worth trying that? Open dooe after 2 attempts to reset error count.
 
I have the car for a year now. The dealer can t remember what the cause for resetting the becm was he could only see he shipped and build in the new becm.
The whole problem started after washing my car with lots of water , then I had to replace the rh doorlatch and the car got confused.Then all four doors closed well by central lock and opened all manually and then the back doors won t open even manually. The garage als said there was a great possibility of low voltage and then he went on telling stories
of several p38 were interrupted by standing in front of certain buildings in our hometown and had to be loaded on his truck
 
I have the car for a year now. The dealer can t remember what the cause for resetting the becm was he could only see he shipped and build in the new becm.
The whole problem started after washing my car with lots of water , then I had to replace the rh doorlatch and the car got confused.Then all four doors closed well by central lock and opened all manually and then the back doors won t open even manually. The garage als said there was a great possibility of low voltage and then he went on telling stories
of several p38 were interrupted by standing in front of certain buildings in our hometown and had to be loaded on his truck
Two things in one tale. All P38's are susceptible to water leaks getting at the wiring in/around the BeCM and other places and this causes mayhem. Also, most of the early vintages came with an automatic battery flattening device - Aka the cars own RF remote receiver with a rubbish band-pass filter, which would wake the BeCM up for a few minutes every time it detected what might possibly/maybe be a fob signal, so the "AWAKE" BeCM draws around 2A for 2 minutes, then goes back to sleep. Rinse-repeat. Leave your car somewhere flooded with lots of RF signals and the battery would be flat pretty soon, or, with such reduced capacity that the volts would drop very low and then all kinds of crazy stuff starts happening. LR in their wisdom denied there was ever a problem, but snuck out 2 updated RF receiver variants (Only the last one fixed the problem). I have had 2 Rangies with the old-style receiver and have suffered the battery flattening hell as a result. There is an "in-line" filter device available for c.£80 that fixes the issue as opposed to the LR £300+ new part.
 
If you have KEYCODE LOCKOUT on the dash, and don't have the EKA code then you pretty much need to pull the BECM out and send it off to someone like myself who can hook the logic board up directly to diagnostic and bypass the security lockouts and reset them... that's worst case scenario.

If you have the EKA, then it's worth checking the microswitches in the door latch to make sure you can input the EKA. Though if the EKA has previously been turned OFF and you have KEYCODE LOCKOUT on the dash, then you're pretty much stuffed and have to send the BECM away. KEYCODE LOCKOUT means the BECM will want the EKA code before it will do ANYTHING else. If the EKA is turned off, then you have no way of entering it, and in an impossible situation.

If the EKA option is turned on, you have the EKA code, and the door latch switches are all OK - then you have to wait 30 mins with the battery connected for the KEYCODE LOCKOUT message to clear from the dash. Once the dash is blank, the vehicle will then accept attempts to enter the EKA. If you have a BECM with a software version of V36 or greater, then with a Nanocom you should be able to go into BECM -> UTILITIES and enter the EKA in the white text box and then press DISARM and it should have the same effect as entering it via the door lock. Again to do this via diagnostics, you need to wait for KEYCODE LOCKOUT to have gone from the dash, and connect the BECM with the ignition OFF (DIAGNOSTICS MODE should come up on the dash).

As the vehicle is in lockout, then you won't just be able to go in via diagnostics and turn things like the EKA and Immobiliser off, as even though it might say it's sucessfully written the settings, it won't actually have changed anything whilst it's in lockout. The vehicle needs to be in a disarmed and unlocked state before it will allow writing of changes to security settings.

With regards to " could this happen after the BECM has been sent away for work".... yes, it can. If the battery voltage is low and the vehicle is locked and alarmed, then the BECM can scramble settings as it loses power, and if it's locked/alarmed when it loses power, then it will power up again in a locked/alarmed state and expect the code to be entered. As has already been mentioned, a great cause of battery drain and thus lockout issues is the RF receivers fitted to the earlier version of the P38 - there wasn't nearly as much RF flying about when they were first designed/produced, so it was never an issue. As time has gone on and other things are now on the 433mhz (or 315mhz in other parts of the world) like garage door openers, aftermarket security systems, wireless doorbells, weather stations... and they all transmit and wake the P38 up, it is now what causes the problems. As also mentioned, there are a couple of fixed out there for this, and generally with this issue solved, P38's sleep a lot better at night (and in the day!) and one of the major causes for headaches is actually fixed.

Hope this helps,
Marty
 
I build in the old becm again which came with the car which was replaced what I mentioned earlier.This one had a code.
The car ulocked then I used sync mate and voila the car started.Everything worked ok Only on the display came transmission neutral, but the gearbox worked fine.
After 6 miles it went in neutral and nothing worked to get shifted in gears. So that s why the becm was replced by the previous owner I think
So when I just buy a single becm with code and let sync mate do the sync all problems will be over ????, also the transmission neutral problem Or does the transmission ecu thinks now he is prefes to stay in neutral.
 
On the BECM fuse box, is there a fuse in position 11?

If there is, then this will shift the transfer case into neutral - it is designed for being able to tow the vehicle on all 4 wheels without damaging the transmission...

If there is a fuse in slot 11, take it out, and when you turn the ignition on, the transfer case should shift back into high range and you'll have drive again.

I'd check that before doing anything else.
 
I build in the old becm again which came with the car which was replaced what I mentioned earlier.This one had a code.
The car ulocked then I used sync mate and voila the car started.Everything worked ok Only on the display came transmission neutral, but the gearbox worked fine.
After 6 miles it went in neutral and nothing worked to get shifted in gears. So that s why the becm was replced by the previous owner I think
So when I just buy a single becm with code and let sync mate do the sync all problems will be over ????, also the transmission neutral problem Or does the transmission ecu thinks now he is prefes to stay in neutral.
Transfer box ECU's fail.
 
The Becm is a hub of all the electronics on the vehicle, Anyone of of the other modules, if a problem develops can cause the becm to go into an alarmed state.
Flat batteries & dodgy door locks are a very common cause, as well as the under bonnet fusebox.
Fusebox's should be replaced every five years & is a servicable item.

When the becm goes into an alarmed state it's doing it's job in what it was designed for in protecting the vehicle It doesn't help that the age of these becm modules are also failing through age & there are parts that need to be replaced through age & wear.

Stating that you had your becm looked at 1.5 years ago means nothing if nothing else on the vehicle has been looked at or renewed. It's like putting a new heart into an old body.

Because the becm works doesn't mean it's in top condition.
 
you were right the 11 fuse was still there
it shifts ok and everything works.
I still can t find out why they changed the becm
maybe during a long testride this weekend I ll find out
after my rover p6 this is the worst car I ever had...........almost no better car to drive in so I ll keep on struggling
 
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