Land Raver
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Then keep the 22"" wheels
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Hippo
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They is probably changing the wheels because they can sell them for a lot more than the 19's. Another benefit is it will make your vehicle drive betterer and have less faults under the warranty.
Eye have never known someone to buy a vehicle where the wheels are such an important factor. Eye would be more concerned over its previous service history and maintenance.
Ma hippo's got 19 inch wheels.
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Unless I misunderstand, you are under no obligation to change to 19" alloys. The car was sold to you with 22" wheels and presumably described as such.
If you like the look and don't want to go off road (and the fact that you bought a car with 22" wheels clearly says you don't), then keep them. The ride will be a bit hard over uneven surfaces, they will curb really easily and you may or may not experience increased wear rates in wheel bearings and CV joints; but better that and driving a vehicle you love than putting wheels on you don't like and loving it less.
Frankly if you have just spent a lot on money on a secondhand RR then I would be far more concerned about the service history and the quality and duration of the warranty.
You will love your RR, but at times it will be a love/hate relationship and outside the warranty they are expensive to run.
If you like the look and don't want to go off road (and the fact that you bought a car with 22" wheels clearly says you don't), then keep them. The ride will be a bit hard over uneven surfaces, they will curb really easily and you may or may not experience increased wear rates in wheel bearings and CV joints; but better that and driving a vehicle you love than putting wheels on you don't like and loving it less.
Frankly if you have just spent a lot on money on a secondhand RR then I would be far more concerned about the service history and the quality and duration of the warranty.
You will love your RR, but at times it will be a love/hate relationship and outside the warranty they are expensive to run.
I bought the vehicle to mainly go to work and back, approx 6 miles four times a week, i have no intention ( as a 53 year old nurse ) to go 'off road', lol i'm far to old for such activities. The point is that i bought the vehicle because it looked the 'dogs bollocks' and i love it. However after having it 16 days the suspension failed and i sent it back under the 30 day rejection as thought this would lead to further issues. This was rejected by the garage and was informed that a height suspension sensor was cleaned and as by magic it now works !! They also said as a 'good will gesture' they would replace my 22 inch alloys for 19 inch alloys as this would increase performance. So firstly, the car is not fit for purpose, as i cannot drive it due to suspension issues, and the car has been at the garage for the past 2 weeks, and secondly, if they reduce the size of the alloys then it is not as described. So how can they reject my early rejection before 30 days of purchase as per Consumer Rights Act 2015. However, it seems that they can if they reject your rejection !! The law is an ASS !!!!!!
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Confused. Air suspension occasionally has issues; sometimes these are serious, sometimes it is something simple like a sticky height sensor. You say the dealer has fixed the problem and that the car now works. If the fault is no longer there, what are your grounds for rejection?
Sadly, if you are freaking out over what sounds like a very minor fault, then L322 ownership may not be an enjoyable experience.
You are under no obligation to change the wheels to cheaper ones. If you chose to allow the dealer to swap them, then you can hardly claim the vehicle is not as described as you authorized the change.
The Sale of Goods Act is not an ass. It gives you the right to return an item if it was not fit for the purpose for which it was bought. If an otherwise sound car develops a fault and the dealer fixes it, then the car can still be used for the purpose for which it was bought and the dealer is under no obligation to return your money. Unless you specifically stated that you wanted the vehicle to be suitable for off road use, then having 22" wheels does not affect the car's fitness for purpose either.
You obviously do not understand the Consumer Rights Act 2015, It states as under this act you have a right to reject if not fit for purpose, not of satisfactory quality and not as described. You have a right to reject something faulty and are able to a full refund within 30 days of purchase. My rights are not fit for purchase as i have been unable to drive this vehicle the past 2 weeks due to suspension issues. My rights have been breached because the car i was sold is faulty and does not match the description. Under this act i can demand a full refund on 'early rejection'. The car i purchased went wrong after 16 days of purchase, this act gives me a right for early rejection. Under this ACT you do not have to accept repair if the fault was within 30 days of purchase. I paid nearly £9,000 for this vehicle that i have been unable to drive for over two weeks now !!!!! I suggest that you read this ACT for your own future reference and then appologise for your insensitive comment.
PS the 'Sales of goods act went out with the arc and has been replaced with the 'Consumer Rights Act 2015'.
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I will give you a partial apology. I was not aware of the 30 day right of early rejection introduced in 2015 with the CRA and it would appear that under that statute you could reject the vehicle. However, this is only because the vehicle developed a fault during the 30 day period, not because it was not fit for purpose or not as described. That part of your claim is utter rubbish, feel free to apologise.
Not sure what part of my post you found insensitive, but if it was the bit about you freaking out over a minor fault, I am even more convinced that Land Rover ownership is going to be a very unhappy experience for you. Modern Land Rovers are highly complicated beasts and as a result require sophisticated workshop facilities and very deep pockets when they break. This would be fine if they were particularly reliable as a result, but few L322 owners have that experience. Unless you are able to do your own servicing and fix at least minor faults then an L322 is quite likely to be a major money pit. Even a tiny bit of research would have informed you of that before you bought it.
Not sure what part of my post you found insensitive, but if it was the bit about you freaking out over a minor fault, I am even more convinced that Land Rover ownership is going to be a very unhappy experience for you. Modern Land Rovers are highly complicated beasts and as a result require sophisticated workshop facilities and very deep pockets when they break. This would be fine if they were particularly reliable as a result, but few L322 owners have that experience. Unless you are able to do your own servicing and fix at least minor faults then an L322 is quite likely to be a major money pit. Even a tiny bit of research would have informed you of that before you bought it.
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Yer missed a bit. The act provides a mechanism. If the seller refuses to follow the rules then it is up to you to take action to enforce it.
You have had a simple fault fixed under warranty. You obviously don't realise the sensors on the air suspension need to work propper for the system to work as a whole. One sensor failing is enough to stop it working. Said sensor changed and the car is back to working. You have a very complex car. It is full of sensors everywhere.
Theres no point in taking it through court as you'll get laffed at. A simple fault has been fixed. Its not like the crank shaft has snapped.
You now dislike the car and want to reject it. For some reason the garage are changing the wheels. Sounds like you have complained about something which makes them need to change the wheels.
Compare the £9k you spent to the price of said vehicle when first sold new. It is full of eggspensive parts. Those parts don't drop in price when needing replaced. Think about it.
The fault you have had is a minor one. It has now been fixed. Sort out the issue over agreeing to change the wheels or not, with the garage. Then enjoy yer motor. Theres no point in getting upset over the refusal to reject. They sold it to you for profit and want to keep that. Garages know very few will take court action. Make sure you have full breakdown cover. They're too heavy to carry on yer own when broken.
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Throws cat amongst pigeons........... IMO 22" are poseur wheels, they are for people who want 'looks' over substance. They want a 4×4 that will never be a 4x4. They will never go off road, never pull someone out of a field/sand/ditch/etc, and will wonder why the handling is rubbish , in the dry, never mind rain or snow. Which is all fine and well, each to their own,etc.
However, buying a vehicle with a 'mod' brings risks. Especially if you don't do your research before buying. This is what has caught you out wheel wise. The wheels are not faulty, but they do change the handling, which can bring faults. If there are faults, your warranty should cover. If you don't trust the dealer, get your veh checked by another gaarage, for an indepedent assessment.
Also , did you tell your insurance about the wheels. Most don't like mods.
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P.s stropping, on this website, is not looked upon kindly. People give all their help for free, and as such can frequently be very honest If being told 'you seem massively upset, over what is , in the main , a small issue, then maybe Range Rover ownerahip is not for you', makes you, even more upset . Then maybe Range Rover ownership is not for you. These are complicated beasts, and bring many issues. Maybe gird your loins if you intend stay.
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Apparently his car developed a fault after 16 days. Is 16 days without a fault not some kind of record for an L322?
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I forgot to add : Your Range Rover will HATE 6 miles a day, 4 days a week. Buy a battery charger, and be prepared for gremlins.
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The wheels is a personal choice. They will work on 22” wheels, but as mentioned, they will break down more often.
If you don’t mind looking the dogs bollox on the hard shoulder often then go for it. Having your EAS play up is a common thing for RRs, get it serviced regular and fix problems before they multiply and they will be very dependable.
More sensible the wheel/tyre configuration less problems you will have.
I think they look class with standard size wheels, not the wheels that make the vehicle
If you don’t mind looking the dogs bollox on the hard shoulder often then go for it. Having your EAS play up is a common thing for RRs, get it serviced regular and fix problems before they multiply and they will be very dependable.
More sensible the wheel/tyre configuration less problems you will have.
I think they look class with standard size wheels, not the wheels that make the vehicle
