What does it take to rip someone off?

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Welcome to Landy Owning you've passed the initiation...you've not been had you've been converted...all be at a cost...were all in the same club...swmbo every time I say I'm just ordering some parts for the 101 beats me with birch brush...double whammy...don't no what's best though parts or??...
You've got a 101 fc? I'd love one of those. Unfortunately my pockets are quite shallow .
 
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At it's matriculation inspection 3wks ago just waiting on new reg plates...
 
Don't they say, in the right or wrong circumstances, most human beings can kill? So. Can most human beings quite easily rip someone else off, and what might lead them to do so? And why don't they care about the others they implicate as aiding and abetting? Do they need to be skint, want shut of a problem so desperately they lose sight of fellow man; because they don't care about others, or because they relish in shafting those with an ocean behind their ears? Are they bog standard sociopaths even?

It interests me cos I bought a tratter 4 weeks ago. The pictures I saw before travelling hundreds of miles turned out to be 5 years old. The 5k paint job I was told it had 4 years ago, transpires to have occurred 15 years ago. The tratter had 'passed; it's MOT the day before I collected it, but the hub seals, brakes, discs and drums were dangerous (I know, it's a grey area with MOTs now), pads **** wet with fluid; an empty and leaked power steering box, leaking sump, shagged shockers, half the dashboard lights not working (power, oil), locks shagged, wipers so f%$£ed I couldn;t see out the windows, AND sent away from the seller's home without normal oil in and not even a 27mm spanner to change a wheel if it'd popped on the way home. All that after he reneged on the cheaper deal and took full whack off me. A condition of the sale was getting the restoration photos. However, once i approached the seller with the problems, he instructed the garage not to send the pictures on the memory stick I sent to the garage. Now I know that some of you are thinking 'well if you're stupid enough, you deserve it', which leads to me asking: 'why take advantage of someone who doesn't know their arse from their elbow?'. Do you stick up for the target, or stand alongside the bully?

I'll get it all sorted. The car will want for nothing. But I think people who rip other people off are F453ing assholes. If you, in a premeditated way, rip people off, then don't talk to me on this forum, because I just think you're a f*&^ing asshole. I'd be absolutely mortified if someone even thought I'd ripped em off, and if you wouldn't feel the same, F&^k off (now I'm off to buy a frigging power steering box). B$%£$dsssss F%$£$% B$% F%$ c%^$ and t$%t

ps. No I'd never report the garage who MOT'd the car, a) because he could have been bull-sh&%ed to by the seller, plus I don't know the garage owner. He might have a family and kids and I wouldn't drop anyone in the sh%t

Sounds like you've been through the mill with this, at least you shouldn't have to do a chassis swap ( As I have) sounds like it's just on going maintenance on a 20 odd year old car, everything is replaceable or repairable, you'll get to know the car properly as well.

I learnt a lot about mine, I now have more trust In my tratter than I do in our disco 2, mostly down to the simplicity of it.

Stick with it, cos there will be ONE day when everything's working and it'll be great.
 
That's when the paranoia REALLY kicks in :confused:

Your right...drumming fingers...changed fluid in jacks...taken dmm to mate's to check battery using his dmm...what's next...polished socket set...what's wrong...nothing...the money drain on the drive is behaving....but has made sure it's got you infactuated with it to the point that you can't believe it's actually doing what you bought it for...driving it...
 
Sounds like you've been through the mill with this, at least you shouldn't have to do a chassis swap ( As I have) sounds like it's just on going maintenance on a 20 odd year old car, everything is replaceable or repairable, you'll get to know the car properly as well.

I learnt a lot about mine, I now have more trust In my tratter than I do in our disco 2, mostly down to the simplicity of it.

Stick with it, cos there will be ONE day when everything's working and it'll be great.
It's more the old chestnut of expectation versus reality. The advert and the pre-sale long distance telephone conversations I had with the seller where one massive 'big up' on his part. It made my expectations 'big' as it would do most, I was excited to have found this amazing car, even though it was top whack for what it is. I can see that he probably did the 'big up' to get a big price for himself, whilst also getting rid of a big problem (in his eyes, not mine). There's no major problems, so what were big problems to him, aren't big problems to me. However, there's been a few burst bubbles to deal which deflate, disappoint and bring out the whinger in me, but I'm feeling better about it all now. You're spot on about getting to know the car well. New discoveries and new information stored everyday. I wonder if some of the chaps on here (James in particular) actually invented tratters. It'd have cost me a bomb if I'd have had to use those sites who pair you straight away with an expert for a fiver. I've asked loads of questions on here.
 
It's more the old chestnut of expectation versus reality. The advert and the pre-sale long distance telephone conversations I had with the seller where one massive 'big up' on his part. It made my expectations 'big' as it would do most, I was excited to have found this amazing car, even though it was top whack for what it is. I can see that he probably did the 'big up' to get a big price for himself, whilst also getting rid of a big problem (in his eyes, not mine). There's no major problems, so what were big problems to him, aren't big problems to me. However, there's been a few burst bubbles to deal which deflate, disappoint and bring out the whinger in me, but I'm feeling better about it all now. You're spot on about getting to know the car well. New discoveries and new information stored everyday. I wonder if some of the chaps on here (James in particular) actually invented tratters. It'd have cost me a bomb if I'd have had to use those sites who pair you straight away with an expert for a fiver. I've asked loads of questions on here.
Do you mind me asking how much you paid for it or will that stir up bad memories .
 
Do you mind me asking how much you paid for it or will that stir up bad memories .

Not at all. The listing was on Ebay. It was 9895 on a Buy it Now. Like everyone does, I sent an offer. Mine was the highest at 9k. He agreed, but since I couldn't travel up to Scotland until the weekend (and he didn't want to end the listing in case I changed my mind before the weekend) he told me to put the BIN price through, but he'd accept 9k cash and amend the final sale price with Ebay. However, when I got there, he told me other people had been in touch after the listing disappeared (I'd spoken to him before I set off and he didn't say that), and he now didn't want to stick to the verbal agreement (when I was in the middle of the mountains 10 miles from the nearest wickerman village). The pictures on his listing weren't an accurate description (5 years old) and all the other stuff I've said in the previous thread. Basically, I was 900 quid down from the deal I was supposed to be doing (he didn't even offer the fiver change from the BIN price), then I drove it home in the ****ing rain, wipers shagged, fuel guage bust, no spanner if my tyre popped, miles more oxidisation bubbling on the rear door than he said (a wee bubble is actually 50 bubbles) .... . Anyway, I've got safe brakes now :0) Best of all, if I had have walked away (swhich is hard when you've travelled all that way), I wouldn't know everyone on here now, would I? :)
 
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Is it a left hooker?

Yes ...wouldn't have bought it if it wasn't.....going to do a project thread on it as it will be used for trips around the Algarve and Europe.... Morocco ferry is only 400k from here..it's also got a knokken winch and iv'e already bought metal lockers to slide out from lower drop down sides...just need the reg plates from IMT Portugal...
 
Yes ...wouldn't have bought it if it wasn't.....going to do a project thread on it as it will be used for trips around the Algarve and Europe.... Morocco ferry is only 400k from here..it's also got a knokken winch and iv'e already bought metal lockers to slide out from lower drop down sides...just need the reg plates from IMT Portugal...

Once sorted...will talk to insurance company to see if I can rent it out for tourist use...it is going to be fully loaded...satnav...f/f...tablet...WiFi...weber bbq...etc...
 
Yes ...wouldn't have bought it if it wasn't.....going to do a project thread on it as it will be used for trips around the Algarve and Europe.... Morocco ferry is only 400k from here..it's also got a knokken winch and iv'e already bought metal lockers to slide out from lower drop down sides...just need the reg plates from IMT Portugal...
Look forward to that.
 
Not at all. The listing was on Ebay. It was 9895 on a Buy it Now. Like everyone does, I sent an offer. Mine was the highest at 9k. He agreed, but since I couldn't travel up to Scotland until the weekend (and he didn't want to end the listing in case I changed my mind before the weekend) he told me to put the BIN price through, but he'd accept 9k cash and amend the final sale price with Ebay. However, when I got there, he told me other people had been in touch after the listing disappeared (I'd spoken to him before I set off and he didn't say that), and he now didn't want to stick to the verbal agreement (when I was in the middle of the mountains 10 miles from the nearest wickerman village). The pictures on his listing weren't an accurate description (5 years old) and all the other stuff I've said in the previous thread. Basically, I was 900 quid down from the deal I was supposed to be doing (he didn't even offer the fiver change from the BIN price), then I drove it home in the ****ing rain, wipers shagged, fuel guage bust, no spanner if my tyre popped, miles more oxidisation bubbling on the rear door than he said (a wee bubble is actually 50 bubbles) .... . Anyway, I've got safe brakes now :0) Best of all, if I had have walked away (swhich is hard when you've travelled all that way), I wouldn't know everyone on here now, would I? :)
I've got to say, if I paid 9k for a 92, I would want and expect a mint example for that money or I would walk away, no matter how far I'd travelled. I've been rebuilding my 95 for best part of 3 years. I know every single nut and bolt on it but I would never dream of getting 9k for it when it's finished ,but if I was offered that I'd snap it off you in a heartbeat .
 
I've got to say, if I paid 9k for a 92, I would want and expect a mint example for that money or I would walk away, no matter how far I'd travelled. I've been rebuilding my 95 for best part of 3 years. I know every single nut and bolt on it but I would never dream of getting 9k for it when it's finished ,but if I was offered that I'd snap it off you in a heartbeat .
weve had a few pinched from round here recently ,farmers trucks what you think were 5-6k but to get any thing similar seems to cost over 10k
 
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