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IMO,

Bull bars that have wraparounds a rubbish, If they bend then they can cause more damage to the wing and make any repair more difficult. My Father had one on his 90 and a beast bent it back into the wing.

A home made one, may also have the potential to pass on any impact force to the chassis and thus cause damage there.

Cheers
 
neilly said:
IMO,

Bull bars that have wraparounds a rubbish, If they bend then they can cause more damage to the wing and make any repair more difficult. My Father had one on his 90 and a beast bent it back into the wing.

A home made one, may also have the potential to pass on any impact force to the chassis and thus cause damage there.

Cheers
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I have a series bull bar painted with bright green but I have a lot of old scaffolding tubes so I thought of making my own
 
Evan farmer said:
Not on a td5 I'm sure
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Officially LR were not allowed to sell a vehicle with one fitted after ( and I may be wrong) some time in 2007 ish, I think that is when they went with the girlie foam A bars you now see fitted. I have also heard of some people having a problem with insurance when they have said it has a full bull bar fitted, altho this may be just one insurers particular foible.

But aftermarket ones are still available as far as I am aware. As for homemade ones, I would wonder how would the corners be finished etc, to stop a sharp corner. Plus the issues if you did come a cropper and hit someone.

There are a couple of links to the particular "laws" in this link.After doing a quick search.
https://www.thestalkingdirectory.co.uk/archive/index.php/t-99790.html

Cheers
 
neilly said:
Officially LR were not allowed to sell a vehicle with one fitted after ( and I may be wrong) some time in 2007 ish, I think that is when they went with the girlie foam A bars you now see fitted. I have also heard of some people having a problem with insurance when they have said it has a full bull bar fitted, altho this may be just one insurers particular foible.

But aftermarket ones are still available as far as I am aware. As for homemade ones, I would wonder how would the corners be finished etc, to stop a sharp corner. Plus the issues if you did come a cropper and hit someone.

There are a couple of links to the particular "laws" in this link.After doing a quick search.
https://www.thestalkingdirectory.co.uk/archive/index.php/t-99790.html

Cheers
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Bull bars on eBay are £150 but I'm sure this breaker on anglsey could cut me a deal or I'll have to use the series bull bar
Is it the same for diy roll cages
 
neilly said:
No Idea, But then I would never consider a homemade roll cage, to meet the MSRA regs they need to be certain steel grades, thickness and follow a set of design rules that have been established. Other than that they are purely for looks and that is not of interest to me personally.

Cheers
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Company made ones are very deer and I'm sure a scaffolding tubes are stronger than the roll cage that came on my td5 black edition
 
In all seriousness, Evan, I get the impression you may not yet have a driving licence. Be aware of current values of land rovers / hi cap pickups. With your new engine in and made presentable, you could probably buy 2 suzukis or jeeps to trash around a farm, still have loads of change in the bank and no regrets
 
Apart from any possible legal issues & the fact that they look ghastly the stronger the bar the more damage can be done to the vehicle in the event of a severe impact. All that energy has to be absorbed somewhere & a really hefty bar will transfer it to the chassis, causing more damage than bent bodywork. If you want to come off best when hitting some thing solid buy a bulldozer.
 
cooltide said:
In all seriousness, Evan, I get the impression you may not yet have a driving licence. Be aware of current values of land rovers / hi cap pickups. With your new engine in and made presentable, you could probably buy 2 suzukis or jeeps to trash around a farm, still have loads of change in the bank and no regrets
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Only a hi cap can carry the loads and it's not going to get "trashed "
Plus jeeps and Suzukis are ****e
 
Scaffold tube works Ok , did it about 45 years ago on a series before you could buy such a thing in UK ,
don't brace it down wing back to A post , but over top of wheel opening and then dog leg down onto bottom of
A post. This is a safety measure , otherwise if you have a hard contact in front the bar transmits the force straight back to A post , bends it back and you cant open door , with the dog leg the side bar protects side of wing, and the kink in the tube acts like a "fuse" so tube bends instead of bending A post . It works well to help beasts move or even push vehicles :)
As for transmitting loads to bend chassis if its that much force the chassis will be bending any way allbeit a few milliseconds later
 
tacr2man said:
Scaffold tube works Ok , did it about 45 years ago on a series before you could buy such a thing in UK ,
don't brace it down wing back to A post , but over top of wheel opening and then dog leg down onto bottom of
A post. This is a safety measure , otherwise if you have a hard contact in front the bar transmits the force straight back to A post , bends it back and you cant open door , with the dog leg the side bar protects side of wing, and the kink in the tube acts like a "fuse" so tube bends instead of bending A post . It works well to help beasts move or even push vehicles :)
As for transmitting loads to bend chassis if its that much force the chassis will be bending any way allbeit a few milliseconds later
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Like the one on my profile pic?
 
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