Freelander aerodynamics... spoiler???

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Okay, so I'm a highly experienced & retired RAF Aircraft Technician, who is also a confirmed Petrol-Head and have been since the age of 11. I have a 2006 Freelander Td4, a vehicle that has the aerodynamics of a flying-brick, especially when it's going quite fast. I love it though.
Can anyone point a finger towards where I can lay my hands on an aerofoil for its flat arse-end? It's not to keep its butt on the deck - like a sports car might need, but to smooth-out the confused and sucking-backwards airstream behind, thus giving a more comfortable drive as well as more MPG. I'm all for efficiency.
And I have to say, that considering some remarks from previous threads, I would appreciate serious answers to help me with the question in hand. Therefore, to those who might be able to give me an encouraging answer, please, please do.
If, however, the answer is in the infantile and puerile category (that'll get some backs up I'm sure - I can't wait for their responses as I enjoy a good laugh & can perhaps use them in my OU psychology studies, talk-about-waving a RED flag to a bull), please desist. I'm implying the wrong kind of answers may be given because some have already been dished-out for other questions, etc. I find it difficult to understand why some individuals go out of their way to be outrageously silly instead of being helpful. I reckon they may have had a difficult childhood or have suspect DNA.
I am a professional engineer (BSc) and hope that someone can help me in my quest to smooth-out the negative & expensive drag... in a professional manner. Please - pretty-please. I have also studied many other subjects - including psychology, of which I've almost finished my Diploma. So I'm sort of perversely hoping there may still be some individuals who can inadvertently help me with my final studies by writing interesting or maybe colourful ideas or crude suggestions that may be of no use at all, except to help me pass my exams. lol. But I'm really praying that someone does know where I can get a functional aerofoil/spoiler for my Freelander - if such a thing exists. Might it?
Thanks.
 
+1,


But maybe that is so he can get feedback for his OU studies, i for one am going to press the ( never to be seen again button).

Cheers
 
Tutankhamun2 said:
Okay, so I'm a highly experienced & retired RAF Aircraft Technician, who is also a confirmed Petrol-Head and have been since the age of 11. I have a 2006 Freelander Td4, a vehicle that has the aerodynamics of a flying-brick, especially when it's going quite fast. I love it though.
Can anyone point a finger towards where I can lay my hands on an aerofoil for its flat arse-end? It's not to keep its butt on the deck - like a sports car might need, but to smooth-out the confused and sucking-backwards airstream behind, thus giving a more comfortable drive as well as more MPG. I'm all for efficiency.
And I have to say, that considering some remarks from previous threads, I would appreciate serious answers to help me with the question in hand. Therefore, to those who might be able to give me an encouraging answer, please, please do.
If, however, the answer is in the infantile and puerile category (that'll get some backs up I'm sure - I can't wait for their responses as I enjoy a good laugh & can perhaps use them in my OU psychology studies, talk-about-waving a RED flag to a bull), please desist. I'm implying the wrong kind of answers may be given because some have already been dished-out for other questions, etc. I find it difficult to understand why some individuals go out of their way to be outrageously silly instead of being helpful. I reckon they may have had a difficult childhood or have suspect DNA.
I am a professional engineer (BSc) and hope that someone can help me in my quest to smooth-out the negative & expensive drag... in a professional manner. Please - pretty-please. I have also studied many other subjects - including psychology, of which I've almost finished my Diploma. So I'm sort of perversely hoping there may still be some individuals who can inadvertently help me with my final studies by writing interesting or maybe colourful ideas or crude suggestions that may be of no use at all, except to help me pass my exams. lol. But I'm really praying that someone does know where I can get a functional aerofoil/spoiler for my Freelander - if such a thing exists. Might it?
Thanks.
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FFS is this 4 reel?

got to be the longest gaylander post ever
Ah! its an Hair force post -- that explains it
 
Tutankhamun2 said:
...Can anyone point a finger towards where I can lay my hands on an aerofoil for its flat ****-end?...
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They fitted them to some FL1's in japan but they did nothing. Just for looks. Won't make a difference. Waste of money.
 
erm, to many posts all in 1! Most of it posted on the wrong website!

However, when it comes to aerofoils, I'd have thought about the only thing they are of any use with Land Rover - is for sponsorship!

Americas-cup-boat.jpg


If you were to put an aerofoil on the back of a Freelander to "smooth-out the airstream" it would have to be so big and pathetic as to make it non-viable.

Maybe you should just get a 3 door, remove the back and weld a panel over it making a 'hatchback' - would also look similarly pathetic though.

I think if you want 200mph, you drive a Ferrari, if you want 100mpg, you drive a moped. If you want good all-round performance, comfort and capability - drive a Freelander!
 
Ignore some of the negative comments.

http://www.rimmerbros.co.uk/Item--i-LF1040

Outta stock but plenty of replicas out there.

Imo a Freelander could definitely use an aero kit, the wall that is the front bumper is 90% of the problem, and the wing mirrors being basically flappy high squares.

No I believe of land rover managed to get the freelander drag coefficient down to 0.39 at launch with subtle aero changes. That is massive. That's basically as efficient as a falling sphere.

Ive no doubt that an aero kit on the roof and front if done right would improve it a lot.

Mind you, with so many of us with roof racks, big tyres, winches etc it's a bit of a loosing battle, but from a styling point alone, I like it.
 
MacGyver said:
Ignore some of the negative comments.

http://www.rimmerbros.co.uk/Item--i-LF1040

Outta stock but plenty of replicas out there.

Imo a Freelander could definitely use an aero kit, the wall that is the front bumper is 90% of the problem, and the wing mirrors being basically flappy high squares.

No I believe of land rover managed to get the freelander drag coefficient down to 0.39 at launch with subtle aero changes. That is massive. That's basically as efficient as a falling sphere.

Ive no doubt that an aero kit on the roof and front if done right would improve it a lot.

Mind you, with so many of us with roof racks, big tyres, winches etc it's a bit of a loosing battle, but from a styling point alone, I like it.
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Other than styling, will it do anything?

I bought a Mazda truck a few years back. It had some fancy cowling attachment at the back, ran along as extensions to the roof rails then crossed over the back of the car and down the sides. I always wondered whether it was 'functional' or just for show. Didn't ponder it long though, the truck fell to bits after 3 weeks and was eventually sold for scrap!

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Check out the wing mirrors on that baby as well - make the Freelander's ones look like tiny obstructions!
 
Can't see it doing much but you never know.

Its frontal "impact" air and under air flow on our cars being so raised.
freelander02.jpg


freelander01.jpg


The collaway bumper went a long way to addressing this imo

land-rover-freelander-callaway.jpg


Its actually shorter than standard, big gaps in it, allows air to flow under also.

I always wondered did the front vents go into the arches to act as additional brake cooling or similar.
 
MacGyver said:
Can't see it doing much but you never know.

Its frontal "impact" air and under air flow on our cars being so raised.
freelander02.jpg


freelander01.jpg


The collaway bumper went a long way to addressing this imo

land-rover-freelander-callaway.jpg


Its actually shorter than standard, big gaps in it, allows air to flow under also.

I always wondered did the front vents go into the arches to act as additional brake cooling or similar.
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I don't think it would work too well as a hydrofoil for crossing deep, fast flowing rivers though. Which of course says something about the duality of human nature: The individual's repressed thoughts or feelings vs. primordial images, or archetypes, found in all of humanity.

i.e.

"I want a economic, fuel efficient engineering solution" vs "Drive that mutha through a river and beat my chest".


Just an observation :rolleyes: opinions vary of course.
 
Dartmoor Navigator said:
I don't think it would work too well as a hydrofoil for crossing deep, fast flowing rivers though. Which of course says something about the duality of human nature: The individual's repressed thoughts or feelings vs. primordial images, or archetypes, found in all of humanity.

i.e.

"I want a economic, fuel efficient engineering solution" vs "Drive that mutha through a river and beat my chest".


Just an observation :rolleyes: opinions vary of course.
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Did cave men beat their chests then while they drove their Tratters through rivers?
 
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