Other upgrading ramps , jacks etc

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gstuart

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as i've now got a considerably heavier landy was wondering what kind of ramps etc u use please

got a clarke 3 ton high lift trolley jack along with a pair of 5 ton axle stands

also reading about these plates that go on top of the trolley jack , has like a small locating pin

started to look for a bottle jack to keep in the car as there's no way i'm using the supplied scissor jack

or maybe a small trolley jack might be better to keep in the boot

also not seen many good quality ramps, thinking of getting 4 x extra wide ones

or some of these plastic ramps

seen some pics where discos are on four ramps in one go to allow the extra room underneath whilst having the advantage of it being level to replace oils etc , so don't have to take it back off the ramps to get the landy level

assume it's easier to use the low ratio to get it onto all four ramps

or would u consider it too dangerous due to its size and weight

anyone used this company please

http://www.sgs-engineering.com/

thks as always guys
 
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johnlad said:
I have a set of 4 SGS 5 ton ratchet axle stands, lift up to 600mm, excellent product
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cheers mate ,

got two of these which i've found very good

https://www.machinemart.co.uk/p/cax-6tbc-6-ton-axle-stands/

been looking at the plastic ramps, with them being easier to store and lighter than the metal ones

see some of them give an average 100 mm height increase

seems sgs get good reviews , never heard of them , prices seem very good

was distracted by there roll tool cabinets
 
I bought the US Pro toolboxes from ebay, had them about 4 years and have no complaints with them
 
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johnlad said:
I bought the american pro toolboxes from ebay, hade them about 4 years and have no complaints with them
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will have to get some toolboxes, just so i can keep things all in one place

that's my excuses anyway

not sure if i should get a bottle jack or small trolley jack to keep in the boot, as i refuse to use the stupid scissor jacks
 
I suppose it all a bit dependent on how safe it looks when it's up in the air. Just had a quick look around on google and theress not a lot about any more. Two ramps at the front and two axle stands at the rear with the trolley jack left supporting the diff has always been my limit.
 
ive an inflatable jack, works off a compressor or exhaust gas, and its more stable on bumpy ground, folds into a neat little bag as well as being light weight
 
johnlad said:
ive an inflatable jack, works off a compressor or exhaust gas, and its more stable on bumpy ground, folds into a neat little bag as well as being light weight
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sounds a good idea

u wouldn't have a link by any chance would u please

thks
 
Nick309 said:
I suppose it all a bit dependent on how safe it looks when it's up in the air. Just had a quick look around on google and theress not a lot about any more. Two ramps at the front and two axle stands at the rear with the trolley jack left supporting the diff has always been my limit.
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done that on an old series and agree does get a bit nerve racking

thought of some plastic ramps , getting four so can drive onto them in one go

would also put some axle stands underneath , with the the air suspension settling

the lower plastic ramps look abit safer than metal ones, due to the height difference
 
johnlad said:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Raptor-4x...829175?hash=item5b2d1bee77:g:gWsAAOSwmLlYBh9A
similar to these, useful on the D3 as the spare wheel is underslung, so if in an off road situation and is needed, you can guarantee the ground wont be flat enough to use a bottle or scissor jack safely, even though you should remove the spare wheel from underneath before venturing off road
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looks a nice bit of kit

thks for the link

don't trust the scissor jack, horrible bloody things
 
The supplied jack aint bad, before I bought a proper trolley jack (sealy 3 tonne) I used the jack out of me dads range rover, worked well. Never had an issue with it bar being a bit slow, happily lifted the 90

As for stands currently use 3 tonne ratchet ones from Halfords
 
gstuart said:
don't trust the scissor jack, horrible bloody things
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Generally, I'd agree with you about scissors jacks, the cheaper ones tend to made out of "sh*tite" and are so soft that they tend to distort and just fail. My mother used to make stronger bread puddin' than that!
TBH, the manufacturer is aware that their vehicle is going to have to be lifted with the jack at some time in its life and they aren't going to supply one that won't do the job safely.
A couple of things to bear in mind though; you're unlikely to ever need to lift the entire vehicle with one jack, so you should be able to lift one corner on a 2 3/4 ton vehicle with a 3 ton jack.
As far as bottle jacks go, there should be plenty on the bay, and usually some Disco 2 jacks too, although that bag jack does look like a good piece of emergency kit, a bit expensive though if you never go off-road so you're able to use ordinary equipment instead.
 
brian47 said:
Generally, I'd agree with you about scissors jacks, the cheaper ones tend to made out of "sh*tite" and are so soft that they tend to distort and just fail. My mother used to make stronger bread puddin' than that!
TBH, the manufacturer is aware that their vehicle is going to have to be lifted with the jack at some time in its life and they aren't going to supply one that won't do the job safely.
A couple of things to bear in mind though; you're unlikely to ever need to lift the entire vehicle with one jack, so you should be able to lift one corner on a 2 3/4 ton vehicle with a 3 ton jack.
As far as bottle jacks go, there should be plenty on the bay, and usually some Disco 2 jacks too, although that bag jack does look like a good piece of emergency kit, a bit expensive though if you never go off-road so you're able to use ordinary equipment instead.
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thks , been quite a few reports of the scissor jacks being used and the threads stripping causing the vehicle to fall down onto the ground

ref the bottle jack, think as u mention a better option instead if the airbag jack, seeing it only has to get a puncture would be stuffed

got a 3 x ton clarke trolley jack, been trying to see if i can use gearbox, diff oil etc in it or if i have to buy the specialist trolley jack oil for it as i think it needs some fresh oil

seeing i will be doing the autobox oil change just thought it easier to get it up on ramps on each corner , as i've found out there's an autobox sump conversion, saving u in having to drop the exhaust engine mounting etc

so didn't want to drive it up onto front ramps, get the sump off then try and mess around getting it level

that's why i thought it being easier getting it on four ramps, so it's all nice and level whilst at the same time giving me that extra height


on the discos is it easier if u wish to change the wheel to just jack it up on the lower wish one instead of the chassis

read somewhere about a jacking point on the wishbone section, it as always can't find it again , lol

seen the way to stop the air suspension from trying to self level

also got to get some far bigger breaker bars

thks again
 
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I didn't mean use the air jack for every day jacking tasks, it's for use as a safer option off road.
I use a 3 ton trolley jack for daily workshop tasks, And the standard jack supplied for on road wheel change.
 
johnlad said:
I didn't mean use the air jack for every day jacking tasks, it's for use as a safer option off road.
I use a 3 ton trolley jack for daily workshop tasks, And the standard jack supplied for on road wheel change.
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i knew what u meant , sorry it's my bad writing, lol
 
We have 8 of the 600mm max height stands and 4 of the 400mm max height stands. We've always got something being worked on with 4 landies in the family. The big ones have a radiused top while the small ones have a V top which I prefer.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/332046144699

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/381734146200

Had the Mercedes up on the big ones with no trouble, that goes 4 tonnes empty.

3 trolley jacks.... One's pretty old now but still works OK.

3 sawn up railway sleepers. Great for heavy-duty blocking up or for leaving under the stands on soft surfaces.

1 6-tonne and 1 10-tonne bottle jack.

Peter
 
listerdiesel said:
We have 8 of the 600mm max height stands and 4 of the 400mm max height stands. We've always got something being worked on with 4 landies in the family. The big ones have a radiused top while the small ones have a V top which I prefer.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/332046144699

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/381734146200

Had the Mercedes up on the big ones with no trouble, that goes 4 tonnes empty.

3 trolley jacks.... One's pretty old now but still works OK.

3 sawn up railway sleepers. Great for heavy-duty blocking up or for leaving under the stands on soft surfaces.

1 6-tonne and 1 10-tonne bottle jack.

Peter
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cheers , only got two axle stands at the moment

thinking of goimg towards the plastic ramps, with them being lighter for a start and easier to store

so the axle stands in the link will be ideal , so it will stop the landy dropping on its suspension whilst underneath

should make life a lot easier

thks for that
 
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