can u tow a series landie

might sound daft prepared for some abuse from this post. but heart rule'd head and i went and brought a series 2. now i know to tow a rangie classic or disco 1 on a a frame to remove props & half shafts do u have to do the same to a leaf sprung series with free wheeling hubs and before u say get a trailer i was going to borrow a mates but after looking at his trailer thought my old padded a frame will have to do

Are you talking about an a-frame or a tow dolly, as long as all 4 wheels are on the ground you can tow it, if you were to have 2 wheels off the ground on a tow dolly or similar then you would need to remove a prop or shafts so your not winding the Diffs.

Mark151151 said:

Are you talking about an a-frame or a tow dolly, as long as all 4 wheels are on the ground you can tow it, if you were to have 2 wheels off the ground on a tow dolly or similar then you would need to remove a prop or shafts so your not winding the Diffs.

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series isn't perm 4wd.

stick it in n, take it out of 4wd and you might as well use the fwh.

should be fine. if you want you can remove the rear prop.

You dont need to do anything , just tow it . If you want you can put transfer into neutral , and just check its in 2wd . As for disco I all you need to do is same . P38 a fuse selects neutral , and then you tow . Towing any of them on A frame is illegal BTW (unless towing with ag tractor at restricted speed) . Wont go into rest .

tacr2man said:

Towing any of them on A frame is illegal BTW (unless towing with ag tractor at restricted speed) . Wont go into rest .

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Very wise, the regs are a can of worms. Basically any vehicle towed on a frame/bar without a driver to operate the brakes becomes an un-braked trailer & therefore cannot weigh more than 750kg. Even towing a vehicle on a rope/strop is not allowed unless the 'towed' unit is fully road-legal ie taxed/insured/mot'd & a licenced driver. Trailer is the only safe way these days. Outfits like the AA/RAC etc. still use dollys but they are classed as professional recovery agents.

tacr2man said:

You dont need to do anything , just tow it . If you want you can put transfer into neutral , and just check its in 2wd . As for disco I all you need to do is same . P38 a fuse selects neutral , and then you tow . Towing any of them on A frame is illegal BTW (unless towing with ag tractor at restricted speed) . Wont go into rest .

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Loads of motorhomes towing cars on A frames despite it being against EU law.

Some are braked , some are below 750kg , the sub 750 are OK technically the others are illegal . Its waiting on a test case. Probably happen one day ! Particularly if there ends up being a serious accident involving such a set up.

tacr2man said:

Some are braked , some are below 750kg , the sub 750 are OK technically the others are illegal . Its waiting on a test case. Probably happen one day ! Particularly if there ends up being a serious accident involving such a set up.

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You can buy an electronic brake set up for the towed car, many don't bother.

after 97 driving tests you'd need a b+e anyway

Datatek said:

You can buy an electronic brake set up for the towed car, many don't bother.

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I noticed that the other day with a motorhome. It was very distracting because it looked like he was being tailgated by another driver as the actual car brake lights operated as well in sync with the motorhome - not a separate board. I don't think the car was even on an a-frame, it must have just been attached with a bar of some description - it did not appear to be raised at all and was so close to the back of the motorhome, I could not see. Maybe it was under 750KG or the brakes and steering were being electronically operated.

That or it was being driven by a clairvoyant dwarf. Anyone seen pikey lately?

Was towed 'home' last weekend by FiL in his 'new' SIII Lightweight project - on a bar.

Hand signals all the way!

Datatek said:

Loads of motorhomes towing cars on A frames despite it being against EU law.

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was at our local MOT station recently, and they had a little car in for mot.
I was looking at the front and noticed a trailor socket on the cars front panel, then I noticed the 2 tough looking extentions with about 1inch holes in them coming out the front
(for attaching A frame) then I noticed a brake cable with a clevis pin type fitting coming out the front also.

must have had an A frame with over run brake mech, that was connected to the hand brakes on the car, plus all the electrics on the car via a short trailor lead.

thought it a very wise set up, one that seemed legal and robust.

easye1 said:

was at our local MOT station recently, and they had a little car in for mot.
I was looking at the front and noticed a trailor socket on the cars front panel, then I noticed the 2 tough looking extentions with about 1inch holes in them coming out the front
(for attaching A frame) then I noticed a brake cable with a clevis pin type fitting coming out the front also.

must have had an A frame with over run brake mech, that was connected to the hand brakes on the car, plus all the electrics on the car via a short trailor lead.

thought it a very wise set up, one that seemed legal and robust.

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I did some reading up on this the other day. There are systems which electronically activate the cars brakes in a proportional way (vids out there demo this). Must be by installing a servo or similar as you can see the brake pedal move of it's own accord.

The clevis pin arrangement on the front is for a brakeaway cable and activates the cars handbrake.

easye1 said:

was at our local MOT station recently, and they had a little car in for mot.
I was looking at the front and noticed a trailor socket on the cars front panel, then I noticed the 2 tough looking extentions with about 1inch holes in them coming out the front
(for attaching A frame) then I noticed a brake cable with a clevis pin type fitting coming out the front also.

must have had an A frame with over run brake mech, that was connected to the hand brakes on the car, plus all the electrics on the car via a short trailor lead.

thought it a very wise set up, one that seemed legal and robust.

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Never understood driving you accomodaion and towing your car, much easier the other way round.

When we used to have a caravan, I used to say I had a real car at the other end.

sp00k said:

I did some reading up on this the other day. There are systems which electronically activate the cars brakes in a proportional way (vids out there demo this). Must be by installing a servo or similar as you can see the brake pedal move of it's own accord.

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it just interfaces to the cars electronics to work the brakes

SteNova said:

it just interfaces to the cars electronics to work the brakes

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Mates big motor home tows a Smart (dumb!) car on an A frame, brakes are operated by a ram that fixes to the brake pedal and some other point I didn't notice, provides enough braking without the servo.