freelander on a shogun chassis ?

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oop's i only paid £900 for the shogun with a cooked engine......
it was spewing water out after 10 miles.
i paid for it, went with a trailer behind my mates pajero, some tools just in case. we had a look, after 5 mins and borrowing a part of my mates to check...........





























the radiator cap was knackered:D

left the car, nipped to a motor factors and got a toyota cap. fitted it and drove it back from wrexham to wigan.
the bloke i bought it off was well ****ed off, his son was the one who told him it was knackered and he works for mitsubishi as a technician.
 
s'funny, my pulley hasn't ripped apart. it started delaminating but it gave plenty of warning and it cost £70 to fix. mine is at 170000 miles now and the gearbox is fine.the electrics work just fine as well.
the rangerover i had was just a money pit and i got that with a full service history as i stupidly thought that would be a help:rolleyes:. my discovery disintergrated at both ends and worked it's way to the middle and i have had 2 freelanders:doh:
the only landie i have had that was decent was my series 3 but even that took a lot of work to get right then keep it running right.
as long as my slitty is reliable i'm happy. every land rover i've owned has had some sort of built in self destruct circuit just so it lets ya down when you need it.
I think most landie problems are caused by neglect rather than poor build quality. I have a 1995 300Tdi disco with 194,000 miles on it. I have serviced it according to the schedules. Waxoyled the underside & chassis, and washed it after every off road trip and dunking in the sea launching my boat. All I have ever had to do with it in 5 years is replace the brake discs & pads, replace the exhaust, & change the cambelt. When your ****ty slitty can do everything my Discovery can do, I.E tow a 3.5 tonne boat and trailer combination up a steep slipway with 7 people inside. Carry 7 people plus all their climbing gear, to the site I use for climbing, which involves fording a 30" deep river and driving up a 1 in 3 muddy slope, and still be as reliable as my disco, then I may consider buying one.
 
you have me there m8,




i took seats 6 and 7 out so the dogs could have some more room:rolleyes:
as for the rest, it should do it, except i don't have a boat or a load of climbers (why would climbers need a boat and why would they be in the car when you are towing a boat off a slipway?)
 
you have me there m8,




i took seats 6 and 7 out so the dogs could have some more room:rolleyes:
as for the rest, it should do it, except i don't have a boat or a load of climbers (why would climbers need a boat and why would they be in the car when you are towing a boat off a slipway?)
I didn't say they were climbers in the boat, I just said that I usually take 7 people with me when I go sailing. I take people climbing with me because that is my job. The reason I bought my Discovery is that apart from a Defender, it is the only vehicle capable of doing what I need it to do.
 
my shogun was real cheap, is reliable and does everything i need. ticks all my boxes m8;) just horses for courses
 
Ok
A totally unbiased view, as i have owned plenty of landys and slittys

Put a slitty up against a landy of the same year.....
The slitty wins hands down - theres no comparison

Be honest with yourselves, i know you are a bit biased as landy owners

And for your information, youll have to look a long way to find someone who loves landys as much as me

Just tryin to be honest
 
Jap 4x4 are for people who don't under stand mechanical things and need some thing boring to go shopping in, a vehicle a bit like a domestic appliances for plug and go users.
Land rover can be money pits if you pay other people to do every thing and you don't have any mechanical skills or under standing.
Land rover can be very reliable and high millage.
Any problems I've had have always made themselves known and I have driven for some time before fixing them.
 
Jap 4x4 are for people who don't under stand mechanical things and need some thing boring to go shopping in, a vehicle a bit like a domestic appliances for plug and go users.
Land rover can be money pits if you pay other people to do every thing and you don't have any mechanical skills or under standing.
Land rover can be very reliable and high millage.
Any problems I've had have always made themselves known and I have driven for some time before fixing them.


well theres the biggest load o bollox i've ever heard.
i do all my own repairs, sort of comes with the territory when you trained as a mechanic.
the jap cars are harder to work on than the landrovers and there is a bit more bodging to do while your waiting for spares which can be a bit harder to get a hold of 'off the shelf' so to speak.

now you don't know me or anything about me but my choice of car.

so my choice of car means that i must have all my work done for me because "you pay other people to do every thing and you don't have any mechanical skills or under standing" (love the lame stereotyping there )

i love the sweeping generalisation m8 but **** me it's a bit 'jumping on the band wagon' innit.
 
Pajeros fer peeps who aint got the time/money to keep the landy on the road

and thats the point m8, i liked working on the landies but not to the extent that it was every weekend when i could have been out driving the bastards.
the last few jobs i've done on my slitty are just modifications that i fancied doing. it's a nice change of pace not to be worrying about every knock and rattle:D
 
and thats the point m8, i liked working on the landies but not to the extent that it was every weekend when i could have been out driving the bastards.
the last few jobs i've done on my slitty are just modifications that i fancied doing. it's a nice change of pace not to be worrying about every knock and rattle:D
the time to worry is when the knocks and rattles stop on a landy cos it means it's dead.:D
 
and thats the point m8, i liked working on the landies but not to the extent that it was every weekend when i could have been out driving the bastards.
the last few jobs i've done on my slitty are just modifications that i fancied doing. it's a nice change of pace not to be worrying about every knock and rattle:D


What sort of Land rovers do you have that need working on all the time ?:eek: That sounds like aload of stereotypical bull**** :doh:
You mention bodging, that's where your problems are, fix them properly and they wont keep letting you down!
 
What sort of Land rovers do you have that need working on all the time ?:eek: That sounds like aload of stereotypical bull**** :doh:
You mention bodging, that's where your problems are, fix them properly and they wont keep letting you down!
well said ,ive owned lrs for 30 years and ive never spent much time fixing them apart from my job, certainly no more than any other vehicle and where you do parts are cheap and available ,part of some reliabilty issues come down to how many other makes are running around as daily drives 20-30 years old but even then can be reasonably made as good as new by a competent home mechanic ,and they have style which japs dont ive never seen a jap 4x4 or car where ive thought that looks good all right if driving is just a to b
 
I have bit of a mixed view on this topic. When i was an apprentice i worked for Mitsubishi and also have an unbiased view as i also love my landy more than anything.
Jap 4x4 normally let down by their gearboxes. Cracked heads seem common on jap as well as land rover.
Japs seem to suffer badly in front suspension and steering components namely lower ball joints and drop arms.
Vehicles like Toyota Prado's seem to be the most popular 4x4 in this part of the world for off road use.
the Land Rover and jap 4x4 are two different vehicles

A lot of people seem to forget that most the Land Rover product starts life as a premium vehicle and then some people maintain them like a cheap jap vehicle which they were not meant to be.
My father had an 98 hse Range Rover from new until 2005 then another from 05 to 10 and another new one now. He has never had any issues with any of them and always had them maintained by Land Rover. When you read the stories on here of other peoples experiences with the same vehicles you would never want to buy one. But i think it all comes down to their past life and treatment jap or brit
Also no matter what both jap and brit are 10 times more durable and less problematic when compared to the yank tanks
 
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Throw an L200 Warrior into it.....now your talking

what makes the warrior any different from the usual l200s that are known for head faliures. A friends brother who is a vauxhall mechanic has an l200 animal that he will never sell after having to put so much money into it.

Used to like the pajeros but the old 2.5/2.8 doozil engine is not really any more economical than the v8 discovery and even with the driver aids they really are very poor off road compared to discos and fenders.

One of the lads who comes out laning with us had a cam problem recently on his v6 slitty and struggled to find anyone that would dare touch it. When he did it costs close to £1000 :eek:.

i had my 110 close to a year and other than a service or 2 i had no costs with it. if i did they were so cheap & easy i cant remember. If a slitty goes pop then so does your bank balance.





Still wouldnt turn down a double cab hilux though :doh:
 
ive been running a hreg 200tdi disco and a f reg fourtrak for a number of years...... all in all there hasnt been a lot of difference between them in regards to whats needed fixing.... brake pipes rusting, pads wearing out , calipers siezin..... nothing out the ordinary for that age of vehicle except the disco has more rust in the cils and the fourtrack blows its water out... its only used locally and seems happy running half a gallon short so havnt bothered trying to sort it. disco has had a cv joint fail .. the fourtrak makes some funny noises in 4wd especially on lock..

at the end of the day i probably wouldnt replace the fourtrak with another one.... id look for a second disco..... but thats really down to interior space and number of doors rather than concerns over mechanical issues.
 
what makes the warrior any different from the usual l200s that are known for head faliures.


Alloys, Leather, Air Con, CD Changer, Fogs, Diff lock, etc.....a lot nicer to look at rather than the one colour over the other setup ..... i could go on

Head failures...... Nope
The head failing is a secondry problem
What causes this is....The EGR cooler corrodes, letting exhaust gases into the coolant, this causes loss of coolant then the engine overheats, then the head suffers. This was a major problem in 2003-2004 models ( EGR coolers were made cheaply in another country during that period )

So
1) Buy a Warrior ( they dont have the chip, but are fully loaded with extras )
2) Remove the EGR cooler
3) Enjoy for years, just stick to the service schedule ( yes you will find yourself with plenty of time to enjoy driving it, not fixing / scraping rust and waxoil etc )


Just take a look and be honest with yourselves ( You will also see that i help discos aswell, like i said i love my landys, just tryin to be realistic, come and have a play next time we are out )
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So a simple fix, remove the EGR cooler, the engines are pretty much bulletproof with this mod done ( you are talking to someone who does know their Mitsi engines....say no more )

Am i not right in saying that 90% of the landy owners on here have blanked or removed the EGR

Animals.....Main reason for problems is that they have the Ralliart chip as standard and the engine doesnt like the power they provide, unpluging the chip will sort that. ( A bit like the TD5s that have a chip installed, and the manifold etc starts to warp / melt )
 
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