I think simply charge £30 for the day and £60 for a weekend, thats what i paid, but you'll have to ask him. Was £20 for many years. Some clubs charge £10 used to be £5. Others charge more depends what they offer. He (simply) is about the cheapest, some charge as much as £180 per weekend, plus...

Good point, but tend to find just as much "comeraderie" as if they have not paid. Majority of people I have been with are novices and never ever been out before, some might have never used low box gears. Often just purchased a truck so are unsure about things But the "comeraderie" soon...

Well you have to ask him if you ever go out with him In general and i've been with quite a few "fee paying" groups these include both commercial and some clubs which charge, the routes are checked before hand to see if legal. Now with one commercial group (not simply) they also take in...

I've just read it and replied. maybe he too busy to accept novices/new people, judging by the number of comments about huge groups could be true. I've heard, but not seen with simply4x4, numbers mentioned in the 20 plus. Biggest i've seen was a lot larger but no simply, however at least...

So have you been out with him ?, have you read the A4 bit of paper he gives all people in the group before hand ? I've been out with him, least he turns up, and "does what he says on the can" its a good day out and good value. Not everyone has the time to lurk though forums al week hopeing...

Bit of a pain trying to find someone to go out with, you could try simply4x4 cost about 30 quid, or join a couple of local landy or 4x4 clubs but that again cost you 30 odd quid and have to wait till they next go out. Could lurk though all the forums including this all week and may be find a...

reconise the tight bridge, got a real deep strach on one side, then did it the other way and got the same matching one on the other:D nice lane that but too many gates:eek:

Thanks for all the infro and the offers, spent most of tonight reserching all the stuff

well i live in north wales and done as many as the routes i can find, problem is don't know much about this memory map thing. There is some interesting ones, and not so interesting, and even the odd legal route not marked on any map. assume have an up to date computer so what software do i...

Know there are a few Welsh boys here so does anyone know or a member of the AWDC who are advertising a weekend trail at Corwen 13/14 October. Now it seems have to be a member to join in so intitial costs for the weekend quite high, what i like to know is do they have other trials in the area...

I tired this approach once and you are right, getting to just see the definitive map was hard and very time consuming some councils are just not interested. Then if you do and you can understand old bits of ***** paper, then work out of find out some might not be available, missing cause with...

its all legal but some of its a boat other route ORPA, on the north west end there is 4 access routes, they join up to make 2 routes to the summit. Keep to the main track, i've been told the hobby bobbies are sitting out of sight on one of the mud runs with video cameras, they won't stop you...

yea i've done some, but they keep changing the rules, once i think 14 year old could do it now its 16, series soft tops although original have now been banned unless a "approved" roll bar top, even from been a marshall on the site. Be carefull who to go with i've turned up before now and the...

is it under threat cause of the access road ? Seems to be a problem with other sites, know of two in wales were the "antis" are using obsocure planning guidelines to close such sites even though the site has access agreements with the lanowners whose access goes over and don't mind the site...

Its a good website that, but be carefull some even so called "4x4 people "take offence when you drive though them and take videos & photos and post them on youtube. Theres been a possible proscution under a section 59, the group did get "off" after a bit of a fight. Still a good site and at...

no problems mate hope you enjoyed it theres a few round barmouth so either send us a pm or post a grid ref of the one you mean

hi starting with campsites been from up here know a fair few depends what you want, quick stay overnight with basic features or the more tourist type ones (usually more expensive). I tend to go for the cheapest prices from £2.50 per head up to about a £5 per night, in the middle of the tourist...

If i see/hear other groups planning to use the site l'll try to let you know and put you in torch with them.

theres two i know of but only been as part of a group Went to one recently, the farmer told me a "club" didn't pay the dosh owed to him so he was'nt to happy with groups, he told me who there were, went on their website and yes they were there, quite surprised as part of a national trailing...

OK thanks Will try to get access but pretty sure its with the deeds in some briefs office somewhere so not so easy Some of the commitee are not to happy renting the cottage out to "groups" but they provide a income, its a walkers/ ramblers /climbing club and full of "antis". Years ago it was...