Are you sure about that? You seem very sure, like many other things. Not true. He acted like a chump and his Pa told him not to drive through it. The rivers were in torrent. We took a diversion - he thought he knew better. This water is a stream for most of the time. I was there.

And did you read their disclaimer/waiver? :scratching_chin: There was a trip when Ed Cobley got swamped by water in his white Disco and had to be recovered by the punters. Or the time he showboated and powerslid his 90 on an icy public road. Makes you think doesn't it?

Well, not everywhere, but Happy Valley is in open access Land; since 2005 and CROW Act it is an area where bobblies can exercise the right to roam. They have no need to walk on the road - but because it is a ROAD they like walking on them cos they're level and don't have dangerous tufts of nasty...

That's a business plan that is :5bcheers2:

No, not at all - but it's a fine line between 'it's my right' and 'I don't care' that's difficult to differentiate on a tinterweb forum. Take care.

Me and Griff are seriously thinking of setting up green lane tours for paying punters. There's clearly a market out there for it and I know we could do better than many of the other operators out there. We could charge a ton a weekend and newbies could follow us around (cos we go there anyway) -...

I'd beg to differ...and so would the local police. Bikes, quads and a heliflopter to catch norty biking scoundrels in the same quarry this month. Tsk... http://www.welshcountry.co.uk/police-riders-swoop-down-on-norty-illegal-off-roaders

A small significant number of routes on maythegreenovalbewithyou are no longer rights of way. Take Shatton Moor for instance, it's not a through route for motors, so you'll be committing an offence under section 34 of the Road Traffic Act 1988 and will be liable to prosecution if you drive it...

Is that a 50th I see before me?

This might help your planning if you're around that area.:) Yorkshire Dales National Park Authority - Access and recreation - Green lane management - Traffic regulation orders

Bleedin' nora. Someone's bin trawling. Well said Pikey.

True. Jeez - if they had girlie bumps they'd be sexy - but they don't, they aren't, and they smell a bit fishy when you let the air out...ah - I see where you're coming from now. Dirty boy:fish::puke:

**** me - you working for them Booger, or tekkin' it up the Rs from the MD or summat?

^wot he says. Snorkel's pretty pointless on a v8 really. Also if you do drown it the water tends to stop the engine rather than lunch itself like a high compression diesel. I got caught out yrs ago in my RRC and drowned it cos I drove like a tw@. Took the plugs out, spun the engine over and...

Oh that LRO tyre test sponsored by Kumho you mean?! I don't doubt that the Kumhos are a useful tyre - but it wasn't an impartial test, more of an advertorial.

I put me local pub and the Ridgeway on anorl.

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Too big, too heavy. All the electronic traction gadgets in the world won't make up for the sheer bulk of the thing. Downsize (well I never - look at the next Rangie and Disco 5 on the drawing board - they're smaller and lighter).

I did have to complain that they moved steak night from a Wednesday to a Tuesday, cunningly renaming it Steak & Fish night. LADYZONE does sound like a spot where you can find mail order brides.

Ladyzone map - like it. My flag is in the local pub.