• ChuggyFreelander
    ChuggyFreelander replied to the thread Freelander 1 New-to-me FL1 TD4 2006 - smoke on startup and doesn't get up to temp.
    I wondered if anyone has any thoughts on how many injectors I should change, based on the readouts and the leak off test? I’m thinking definitely 4 and potentially 1 too… trying to refrain from throwing too much money at parts given its overall...
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    Thursday at 21:11
  • ChuggyFreelander
    ChuggyFreelander replied to the thread Freelander 1 New-to-me FL1 TD4 2006 - smoke on startup and doesn't get up to temp.
    Thank you - I will definitely do that. I think I will post a diagram up to confirm I'm checking the right things before I start...
    Thursday at 11:39
  • ChuggyFreelander
    ChuggyFreelander reacted to pwood999's post in the thread Freelander 1 New-to-me FL1 TD4 2006 - smoke on startup and doesn't get up to temp with Like Like.
    Try running it with the air filter cover removed. That way crankcase fumes cannot get in to the inlet. Also try running with disconnected EGR & intercooler hoses. That way you can eliminate turbo seals leaking. Basically your dividing the...
    Thursday at 11:34
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    ChuggyFreelander replied to the thread Freelander 1 New-to-me FL1 TD4 2006 - smoke on startup and doesn't get up to temp.
    Edit: I fitted a new PCV/crankcase breather kit, the one below. The kit I changed out had an oily filter, but I wouldn't say loads of oily residue around the casing. It was a bit oily, for sure. Annoyingly I seem to have thrown the original out -...
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    Thursday at 08:23
  • ChuggyFreelander
    ChuggyFreelander reacted to Freddie17's post in the thread Freelander 1 New-to-me FL1 TD4 2006 - smoke on startup and doesn't get up to temp with Like Like.
    Ok chaps, update on @ChuggyFreelander ’s car… Main issues for MOT are excessive smoking and handbrake. My advice was to sort the smoking first, if dealt with, then replace the rear brakes. Seems to be an injector issue going on as the balancing...
    Thursday at 08:22
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    ChuggyFreelander reacted to Freddie17's post in the thread Freelander 1 New-to-me FL1 TD4 2006 - smoke on startup and doesn't get up to temp with Like Like.
    @ChuggyFreelander Off-topic, but as promised; PB blaster is my first go-to for releasing rusty nuts and bolts. Soaking time is your friend here. Owatrol Polytrol is brilliant for restoring your black trims on the car.
    Thursday at 08:22
  • ChuggyFreelander
    ChuggyFreelander replied to the thread Freelander 1 New-to-me FL1 TD4 2006 - smoke on startup and doesn't get up to temp.
    @Freddie17 has kindly been round - here are some screenshots .Thoughts appreciated... injectors, as expected, plus MAP sensor. Have included 2 photos of injector readout. P1613 MAP Control code reappeared after Freddie cleared the codes that...
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    Wednesday at 22:13
  • ChuggyFreelander
    ChuggyFreelander replied to the thread Freelander 1 New-to-me FL1 TD4 2006 - smoke on startup and doesn't get up to temp.
    Indeed!
    Jul 8, 2025
  • ChuggyFreelander
    ChuggyFreelander replied to the thread Freelander 1 New-to-me FL1 TD4 2006 - smoke on startup and doesn't get up to temp.
    thanks @Arctic2. Possibly I was a bit complacent about the MOT… 🙈😂 We’ll report back with results…
    Jul 8, 2025
  • ChuggyFreelander
    ChuggyFreelander reacted to Freddie17's post in the thread Freelander 1 New-to-me FL1 TD4 2006 - smoke on startup and doesn't get up to temp with Like Like.
    Ok - maybe one will be ordered by a new member soon 😉
    Jul 8, 2025
  • ChuggyFreelander
    ChuggyFreelander reacted to Arctic2's post in the thread Freelander 1 New-to-me FL1 TD4 2006 - smoke on startup and doesn't get up to temp with Like Like.
    I am waiting on the return of two EGR and i have two in the shed that need doing, when i get time to sort them out which would be this weekend sometime.
    Jul 8, 2025
  • ChuggyFreelander
    ChuggyFreelander reacted to Freddie17's post in the thread Freelander 1 New-to-me FL1 TD4 2006 - smoke on startup and doesn't get up to temp with Like Like.
    A lot of the 'go-to' stuff has been done by the OP already, including PCV and MAP, but we'll get some checks and read-outs and report findings. The intake manifold and EGR has been cleaned also - @Arctic2 do you still have any cleaned + gutted...
    Jul 8, 2025
  • ChuggyFreelander
    ChuggyFreelander reacted to Arctic2's post in the thread Freelander 1 New-to-me FL1 TD4 2006 - smoke on startup and doesn't get up to temp with Like Like.
    Hopefully Freddie will report back to us so we know what is going on, looks like the injector needs to be changed out, make sure EGR, manifold & MAP sensor is clean, drop some injector cleaner into the tank, it's always good to book your MOT time...
    Jul 8, 2025
  • ChuggyFreelander
    ChuggyFreelander replied to the thread Freelander 1 New-to-me FL1 TD4 2006 - smoke on startup and doesn't get up to temp.
    Update... MOT didn't go well. In fact, garage called me after starting it up and turning it straight off again as after sitting for hours, it was doing the usual white smoke and misfiring on starting. I explained that it would stop smoking after...
    Jul 8, 2025
  • ChuggyFreelander
    ChuggyFreelander replied to the thread Freelander 1 New-to-me FL1 TD4 2006 - smoke on startup and doesn't get up to temp.
    Ok, thank you 🙏 He has, very kindly. I’ll see how the MOT goes - if it drastically fails then I won’t be pursuing it I don’t think as just doesn’t make financial sense really. If we’re good then I shall take him up on it 👌
    Jul 3, 2025
  • ChuggyFreelander
    ChuggyFreelander reacted to Arctic2's post in the thread Freelander 1 New-to-me FL1 TD4 2006 - smoke on startup and doesn't get up to temp with Like Like.
    Personally i would say they are one and the same, you get the same or come to the same conclusion, clearly No 4 injector needs to be changed then go from there, do another leak back test or get it on the code reader and check the injectors that...
    Jul 3, 2025
  • ChuggyFreelander
    ChuggyFreelander replied to the thread Freelander 1 New-to-me FL1 TD4 2006 - smoke on startup and doesn't get up to temp.
    That’s what I found which concerned me. Just thinking re the amounts coming into the bottles, perhaps parameters are different between the 2 tests
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    Jul 3, 2025
  • ChuggyFreelander
    ChuggyFreelander replied to the thread Freelander 1 New-to-me FL1 TD4 2006 - smoke on startup and doesn't get up to temp.
    Sorry @Arctic2 - forgive my ignorance- so does it matter whether a “leak off” or “leak back” test was done? Just concerned as to whether this affects the interpretation of the results. Clearly either way injector 4 is (the most) dodgy given the...
    Jul 3, 2025
  • ChuggyFreelander
    ChuggyFreelander replied to the thread Freelander 1 New-to-me FL1 TD4 2006 - smoke on startup and doesn't get up to temp.
    Ah. I've discovered that "leak off" and "leak back" tests are different things... I did ask for a leak back test but clearly this was lost in translation because they've performed a "leak off' test according to the invoice. I guess this would...
    Jul 3, 2025
  • ChuggyFreelander
    ChuggyFreelander replied to the thread Freelander 1 New-to-me FL1 TD4 2006 - smoke on startup and doesn't get up to temp.
    Thanks for this. I will ask what the duration of the test was. The notes provided said "Cylinder 4 excessive leak, cylinder 1 & 2 low return of fuel. Advice would be to remove all injectors for testing". So he's saying the low amount in No 2 is...
    Jul 3, 2025
  • ChuggyFreelander
    ChuggyFreelander replied to the thread Freelander 1 New-to-me FL1 TD4 2006 - smoke on startup and doesn't get up to temp.
    Hi all, injector leak back test done… 🫣 As expected - issues! Please could someone be kind enough as to explain them to me? Mechanic was in a rush, said clearly 4 has excessive leak and 2 clogged. He said he didn’t know if 1 and 3 are correct...
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    Jul 3, 2025
  • ChuggyFreelander
    ChuggyFreelander replied to the thread Freelander 1 New-to-me FL1 TD4 2006 - smoke on startup and doesn't get up to temp.
    Oh wow, same! Thank you very much, that’s very kind and I’d certainly be interested at some point in the near future 😃👍
    Jun 29, 2025
  • ChuggyFreelander
    ChuggyFreelander reacted to Freddie17's post in the thread Freelander 1 New-to-me FL1 TD4 2006 - smoke on startup and doesn't get up to temp with Like Like.
    I’m in Kent, just outside of Ashford. I have full diag kit for F1, if ever you need some help.
    Jun 29, 2025
  • ChuggyFreelander
    ChuggyFreelander replied to the thread Freelander 1 New-to-me FL1 TD4 2006 - smoke on startup and doesn't get up to temp.
    No worries @MGT - was just interested. Thank you @Arctic2 - that’s really kind - I’m in Kent. I’ve got it booked in (time constraints) to get the air intake temp sensor plug rewired, handbrake tightened and an injector leak-back test, so we’ll...
    Jun 29, 2025
  • ChuggyFreelander
    ChuggyFreelander reacted to Arctic2's post in the thread Freelander 1 New-to-me FL1 TD4 2006 - smoke on startup and doesn't get up to temp with Like Like.
    I have spare injectors for the TD4 where are you based in the UK i think i may have the connection plug also with some wire connected to it, which i will double check tomorrow if you still need, drop me a message if you do. 1
    Jun 29, 2025
  • ChuggyFreelander
    ChuggyFreelander reacted to MGT's post in the thread Freelander 1 New-to-me FL1 TD4 2006 - smoke on startup and doesn't get up to temp with Like Like.
    Sorry for the late reply. For some reason i missed your post. Yes, I replaced the injector. It seems difficult until you do one, and you read a lot of stories about them refusing to come out. So far I've been lucky, and I've done a few now. The...
    Jun 29, 2025
  • ChuggyFreelander
    ChuggyFreelander replied to the thread Freelander 1 New-to-me FL1 TD4 2006 - smoke on startup and doesn't get up to temp.
    Ok thank you 👍 forgive my ignorance but can anyone help me with a link to a new connector? Done some googling and am none the wiser 😅
    Jun 25, 2025
  • ChuggyFreelander
    ChuggyFreelander replied to the thread Freelander 1 New-to-me FL1 TD4 2006 - smoke on startup and doesn't get up to temp.
    Hi all- went to fit the new air intake temperature sensor (the one at the front of the engine next to the intake) and discovered that one of the wires to it is broken (see pic). I’m positive I didn’t do this as I was very careful getting the plug...
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    Jun 25, 2025
  • ChuggyFreelander
    ChuggyFreelander replied to the thread Freelander 1 New-to-me FL1 TD4 2006 - smoke on startup and doesn't get up to temp.
    Thanks, I’ll look into that
    May 24, 2025
  • ChuggyFreelander
    ChuggyFreelander reacted to Arctic2's post in the thread Freelander 1 New-to-me FL1 TD4 2006 - smoke on startup and doesn't get up to temp with Like Like.
    That is this thread then https://www.landyzone.co.uk/land-rover/air-intake-temperature-sensor-solved.397997/#post-5842900
    May 24, 2025
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