2008Freelander
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2008 FL2, petrol 3.2, battery 13.6V (fully charged), ambient temperature 60°F/15.5°C., sunny dry day
* Cold start fine
* Drive 8km at 40-50 km/h
* Shut off engine, immediate restart is fine
* Shop for 15 minutes. Come out.
* Engine turns over strongly but does not start
* Push button ignition does not allow continual cranking
* Various attempts over 10 minutes
* Then I notice it sounds like it was trying to catch
* Start variations on pumping the accelerator pedal - sometime with starter engaged, others not
* After about ten times, with some in a push button 1-2 and others push 1 and wait, it sounds a bit more like the engine is trying to catch
* One final push sounds as if it is almost there
* Next starts fine, runs normal
This suggests when warm the fuel injection system is not getting enough petrol into the engine. Some threads say vapour lock, but they tend to be Australia, not a subtropical, high-pressure day in New Zealand winter. Others point to the fuel filter and the fuel pump. Checking with the previous owner, she says it only happened once. She had not used the car in months, took it to her mechanic to do the Warrant of Fitness and it would not start. Then 10 minutes later it started fine. No diagnosis, instead she sold me the car (at a price that factored in these issues).
Other suggestions are the crank sensor or cam sensor. Video talk about cam sensor suggests the engine will not run as smoothly. In this case, the engine runs fine as soon as it starts.
I returned home, shut it down for an hour or two, then went out to check OBD codes. By now it is night (cooler) and it started right up. The only two codes are related to air conditioning and infotainment, nothing that would suggest fuel or ignition.
My sense is fuel is not getting to the engine. Something causes starvation after warm run and shut down. It is unclear if trying to start for a few minutes has anything to do with it.
Any thoughts?
* Cold start fine
* Drive 8km at 40-50 km/h
* Shut off engine, immediate restart is fine
* Shop for 15 minutes. Come out.
* Engine turns over strongly but does not start
* Push button ignition does not allow continual cranking
* Various attempts over 10 minutes
* Then I notice it sounds like it was trying to catch
* Start variations on pumping the accelerator pedal - sometime with starter engaged, others not
* After about ten times, with some in a push button 1-2 and others push 1 and wait, it sounds a bit more like the engine is trying to catch
* One final push sounds as if it is almost there
* Next starts fine, runs normal
This suggests when warm the fuel injection system is not getting enough petrol into the engine. Some threads say vapour lock, but they tend to be Australia, not a subtropical, high-pressure day in New Zealand winter. Others point to the fuel filter and the fuel pump. Checking with the previous owner, she says it only happened once. She had not used the car in months, took it to her mechanic to do the Warrant of Fitness and it would not start. Then 10 minutes later it started fine. No diagnosis, instead she sold me the car (at a price that factored in these issues).
Other suggestions are the crank sensor or cam sensor. Video talk about cam sensor suggests the engine will not run as smoothly. In this case, the engine runs fine as soon as it starts.
I returned home, shut it down for an hour or two, then went out to check OBD codes. By now it is night (cooler) and it started right up. The only two codes are related to air conditioning and infotainment, nothing that would suggest fuel or ignition.
My sense is fuel is not getting to the engine. Something causes starvation after warm run and shut down. It is unclear if trying to start for a few minutes has anything to do with it.
Any thoughts?
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