Thanks thats given me some ideas of where to look at had the fuel filter change yesterday and the fuel sensor wiring checked which looked ok but was wd40ed etc anyway. when i say randomly i mean it will play up then will be ok.. did 200miles to get home sunday problem only started part way through saturday, And it did it a few times here and there stopped for a break every so often and would not do it on some sections but would on others. did a 5min trip last night and it did not do it but did it 100 yards from my house this morn.