On Tue, 08 Jun 2004 04:19:55 GMT, "burntkat IS AT sc.rr.com"
<burntkathatesspam@sc.rr.com> wrote:

>speaking as a former one of the "idiots"-- I'll inform you that a soldier's
>job isn't exactly to play nice and gentle.

I'm not going there.

--
QrizB

"On second thought, let's not go to Z'Ha'Dum. It is a silly place."

On or around Tue, 08 Jun 2004 04:19:55 GMT, "burntkat IS AT sc.rr.com"
<burntkathatesspam@sc.rr.com> enlightened us thusly:

>speaking as a former one of the "idiots"-- I'll inform you that a soldier's
>job isn't exactly to play nice and gentle.
>

true, however breaking your transport is apt to be a bad move, and making
the transport unbreakable is not the best solution to the problem.

--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.fsnet.co.uk my opinions are just that
"There is plenty of time to win this game, and to thrash the Spaniards
too" Sir Francis Drake (1540? - 1596) Attr. saying when the Armarda was
sighted, 20th July 1588

well, FYI-- anything can be broken, and we had no major problems whatsoever
with them in Gulf1.


"Austin Shackles" <austin@ddol-las.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On or around Tue, 08 Jun 2004 04:19:55 GMT, "burntkat IS AT sc.rr.com"
> <burntkathatesspam@sc.rr.com> enlightened us thusly:
>
> >speaking as a former one of the "idiots"-- I'll inform you that a
soldier's
> >job isn't exactly to play nice and gentle.
> >
>
> true, however breaking your transport is apt to be a bad move, and making
> the transport unbreakable is not the best solution to the problem.
>
> --
> Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.fsnet.co.uk my opinions are just that
> "There is plenty of time to win this game, and to thrash the Spaniards
> too" Sir Francis Drake (1540? - 1596) Attr. saying when the Armarda was
> sighted, 20th July 1588

probably wise.


"QrizB" <qrizb@dev.null> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 08 Jun 2004 04:19:55 GMT, "burntkat IS AT sc.rr.com"
> <burntkathatesspam@sc.rr.com> wrote:
>
> >speaking as a former one of the "idiots"-- I'll inform you that a
soldier's
> >job isn't exactly to play nice and gentle.
>
> I'm not going there.
>
> --
> QrizB
>
> "On second thought, let's not go to Z'Ha'Dum. It is a silly place."

|> >The question is whether the LR can take the abuse that the HMMWV
|> >has to take from US soldiers. These lads are brutal.
|>
|> Perhaps you should train them not to be? Rather than looking for an
|> idiot-proof vehicle, do something about the idiots.
|
|I've been made aware of non-drivers (there are some in the US, in the
|big cities) being in the US Army and being expected to drive a Hummer.
|
|And not the emergency get us the hell out of here situations...

The US is not a nation of farm boys these days. Yet we expect
soldiers and Marines to have certain life skills. Driving, and
auto maintenance, are common task skills that all are expected to
have. Also there are too many who, being young, just like to
push the hell out of a vehicle.

Thus can the LR Defender take the same level of abuse that the
Hummer does?

"R. David Steele" <steele.david@verizon.net/OMEGA> wrote in message
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>
> |> >The question is whether the LR can take the abuse that the HMMWV
> |> >has to take from US soldiers. These lads are brutal.
> |>
> |> Perhaps you should train them not to be? Rather than looking for an
> |> idiot-proof vehicle, do something about the idiots.
> |
> |I've been made aware of non-drivers (there are some in the US, in the
> |big cities) being in the US Army and being expected to drive a Hummer.
> |
> |And not the emergency get us the hell out of here situations...
>
> The US is not a nation of farm boys these days. Yet we expect
> soldiers and Marines to have certain life skills. Driving, and
> auto maintenance, are common task skills that all are expected to
> have. Also there are too many who, being young, just like to
> push the hell out of a vehicle.
>
> Thus can the LR Defender take the same level of abuse that the
> Hummer does?
>
>
I can't imagine British squaddies being any kinder to their vehicles than
their American counterparts are. Land Rovers have been taking this abuse for
over 50 years now - maybe when Hummers have been in continuous service for
50 years with hundreds of armys around the world you can come back to this
discussion and tell us whether the hummer can take the same level of abuse
that the Land Rover has already proved it can.