Per Jarvi

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Good morning.

I'd just come to the conclusion that a leaking NRV1 was draining the tank to different degrees when another issue arose. I watched the tank pressure gauge after the last three rides and over a couple of hours the pressure dropped slowly to stop at 29, 100 and 130PSI respectively. I thought I'd fix that in the near future. Last morning the tank pressure was zero and I expected the tank to fill up in 6 minutes like it did last week. Compressor seal changed recently. Contrary to my belief it wouldn't rise but kept flashing when it tried to regain standard height after having automatically lowered on the highway. I pushed down on the rocker switch, it immediately stopped flashing and i pushed the inhibit switch and drove home. Then I noticed the gauge was still at zero and didn't move at all when the compressor ran. I removed the inlet filter and could only feel a very light suction. I removed the airline and could almost stop the air coming out of the compressor with my finger. The sound/vibration was also sort of quiet, sounding different but still clean, not at all like it usually sounds. This sudden loss of compressor power made me think seal wear was probably not the problem so I figured the seal had split up. Whwn I took the compressor apart the seal, liner and reeds/valves were all fine. As were piston which revolved nicely without play.
I then opened up the back plate and a whole lot of carbon fell out even some larger fragments. Cleaned and put back toghether. Brushes looked fine.
Can it be insufficent voltage to the compressor causing a low rpm? I've searched the forum but couldn't find anything about a weak compressor apart from worn seal/liner. I really don't know though and therefore would be very grateful for any ideas.

All the best
Per
 
If there is enough power to cause the compressor motor to run against the tank pressure, then low voltage is not your problem. If the new seal you fitted was the one from the Dutch lot that probably is the problem especially as the compressor has been working overtime feeding a leak. The seal might look OK but it is too hard and doesn't form a good seal to the liner.
 
The last seal off ebay had way more play against liner and still produced enough pressure. This seal is from island4x4 and worked fine the first three rides then suddenly this happened.
Thank's
Per
 
The last seal off ebay had way more play against liner and still produced enough pressure. This seal is from island4x4 and worked fine the first three rides then suddenly this happened.
Thank's
Per

Well, if the motor runs and the piston moves up and down but produces no pressure, either the seal or the liner or both are likely to be shot. The seal spreads under air pressure to form the seal with the liner. I guess if the motor was running very slowly it might cause the same problem. Have you actually measured the voltage at the motor?
 
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Read the "How to" section and check diaphragm for leaking. Check that exhaust valve in compressor is sat squarely on O ring. If O ring is loose secure with a little silicone onto it's seat.
 
Read the "How to" section and check diaphragm for leaking. Check that exhaust valve in compressor is sat squarely on O ring. If O ring is loose secure with a little silicone onto it's seat.

He say's he can stop the air coming out of the compressor airline and there is little suction Tony, so I didn't bother to mention the "How To"
 
He say's he can stop the air coming out of the compressor airline and there is little suction Tony, so I didn't bother to mention the "How To"

He said he could "Almost" stop the air coming out. So yes either the piston seal is duff which it maybe but is fairly new or the compressor exhaust valve is not sealing on the O ring. That would cause loss of suction and loss of air pressure build.
 
Thank's
I can stop the air from coming out, i checked the o-ring it was ok but a little flat perhaps. Changed it anyway. Cleaned the reeds. Checked diaphragm by holding finger on exhaust recently. No leak during compressor operation. Diaphragm recently changed. Didn't check it again since it was so obvious the compressor was weak but will recheck diaphragm tonight to be 100%.
Appreciate your replies.
Per
 
Thank's
I can stop the air from coming out, i checked the o-ring it was ok but a little flat perhaps. Changed it anyway. Cleaned the reeds. Checked diaphragm by holding finger on exhaust recently. No leak during compressor operation. Diaphragm recently changed. Didn't check it again since it was so obvious the compressor was weak but will recheck diaphragm tonight to be 100%.
Appreciate your replies.
Per

You must make sure the compressor exhaust reed sits on the O ring when at rest. You must make sure the O ring cannot move out of it's seat. Pressure build up depends on air being forced past exhaust reed and held there. Try removing cylinder and spreading seal then rebuilding, if air volume increases. Fit another new seal. Seal must be clamped firmly between retaining ring and piston. Inlet reed valve must be flush with cylinder head, with no gap.
 
I'm really sorry to have bothered you with this.
Downright embarrasing.
One end of the Y-connector for the tank gauge had snapped right off and in my dimly lit barn I didn't see it first. Since the compressor worked against a much lower pressure the sound and vibration of it changed. Together with the zero tank pressure it led me to believe the compressor was faulty. First after disassembling it to atoms I realized how badly mistaken I was.
Once again I apologize for this. I'll think twice before posting again.
All the best
Per
 
I'm really sorry to have bothered you with this.
Downright embarrasing.
One end of the Y-connector for the tank gauge had snapped right off and in my dimly lit barn I didn't see it first. Since the compressor worked against a much lower pressure the sound and vibration of it changed. Together with the zero tank pressure it led me to believe the compressor was faulty. First after disassembling it to atoms I realized how badly mistaken I was.
Once again I apologize for this. I'll think twice before posting again.
All the best
Per

Good man for owning up to an error:D We all make them;)
 

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