lhandrover · Apr 10, 2016

...or it might be. I have an 88 NINETY (never know whether to refer to this as a Defender or not?) and I have a problem when driving at 50 plus. It dies after 10 sec or so at 50+ and falters until it drops to about 40, recovers all on its own, and is happy to maintain sub 50 without incident.
So, I am thinking change fuel pump and check fuel lines (fuel filter quite recent but would do at same time). Problem is, my fuel pump does not look like the ones on offer from the usual suspects - In fact, some of them say ETC7869 - Some say STC1190 - Some say RTC6180. I can see there are some supercessions, but none of them look anything like mine. Mine looks like 563146.
Any ideas? CAV Injection pump fitted if that matters.

lhandrover · Apr 10, 2016

Marmaduke · Apr 10, 2016

It should resemble this...

lhandrover · Apr 10, 2016

Pipes going into it are plastic

lhandrover · Apr 10, 2016

Marmaduke said:
It should resemble this...

lhandrover · Apr 10, 2016

I've attached a pic now Marmaduke. Your pic looks like those offered, but very different to mine.

lhandrover · Apr 10, 2016

Here is my whole engine..

jamesmartin · Apr 10, 2016

since yours has 563416 fitted id use the same unless you want to alter pipe work

Marmaduke · Apr 10, 2016

lhandrover said:
Pipes going into it are plastic

The pipework should be plastic

lhandrover · Apr 10, 2016

Your pic says use RTC6180 Repair Kit up to 19j14097J - Mine does split as you can see, and engine number is earlier than 19j14097j (19j10.. in fact)

Anyone know the number to replace the whole pump rather than kit it - Could it be the 563146?

jamesmartin · Apr 10, 2016

lhandrover said:
Your pic says use RTC6180 Repair Kit up to 19j14097J - Mine does split as you can see, and engine number is earlier than 19j14097j (19j10.. in fact)

Anyone know the number to replace the whole pump rather than kit it - Could it be the 563146?

as i posted earlier 563146 ,dont buy a kit get the whole pump

Marmaduke · Apr 10, 2016

lhandrover said:
Your pic says use RTC6180 Repair Kit up to 19j14097J - Mine does split as you can see, and engine number is earlier than 19j14097j (19j10.. in fact)

Anyone know the number to replace the whole pump rather than kit it - Could it be the 563146?

Other suppliers are available but I'd recommend buying an OEM or equivalent

https://www.lrdirect.com/563146-Fuel-Lift-Pump-2.25D/

lhandrover · Apr 10, 2016

jamesmartin said:
as i posted earlier 563146 ,dont buy a kit get the whole pump

Hello Jamesmartin - As per my original post, I mention mine looks like a 563146 - I am enquiring if it actually is one. Catalogues I've seen listing it as series 2 & 3 pump?

lhandrover · Apr 10, 2016

Ok thanks Marmaduke and JM - Looks like it is one of those.

jamesmartin · Apr 10, 2016

lhandrover said:
Hello Jamesmartin - As per my original post, I mention mine looks like a 563146 - I am enquiring if it actually is one. Catalogues I've seen listing it as series 2 & 3 pump?

it is one , someones obviously fitted it at some time but are good pumps so refit as the same saves aggro swapping pipes

Marmaduke · Apr 10, 2016

lhandrover said:
Hello Jamesmartin - As per my original post, I mention mine looks like a 563146 - I am enquiring if it actually is one. Catalogues I've seen listing it as series 2 & 3 pump?

If you look at the link I posted it also specifies that it fits early 90's and 110's

lhandrover · Apr 10, 2016

Marmaduke said:
If you look at the link I posted it also specifies that it fits early 90's and 110's

Yes it does, but also says Normaly Aspirated - mines a Turbo. The angles shown on the pump entry and exit are different to my one too (the 563146 points towards the flange, mine is pointing away from the flange - an assumption again, but I'm reckoning on undoing it and twisting the top plate. All sounds a bit unlikely to me I have to say - and the pic you posted does say use RTC6180 repair kit for my engine number.

Someone else may come along with some specific knowledge of this but for now I've mailed Paddock and Island 4x4 with full vehicle details.

I will return with the resolution - Cheesed right off with following dead end links, why do people do that!!

jamesmartin · Apr 10, 2016

lhandrover said:
Yes it does, but also says Normaly Aspirated - mines a Turbo. The angles shown on the pump entry and exit are different to my one too (the 563146 points towards the flange, mine is pointing away from the flange - an assumption again, but I'm reckoning on undoing it and twisting the top plate. All sounds a bit unlikely to me I have to say - and the pic you posted does say use RTC6180 repair kit for my engine number.

Someone else may come along with some specific knowledge of this but for now I've mailed Paddock and Island 4x4 with full vehicle details.

I will return with the resolution - Cheesed right off with following dead end links, why do people do that!!

top can be moved around , you dont have a turbo diesel pump fitted you have an earlier one, vehicle details wont help , you have the wrong pump fitted so unless you want to alter pipe work fit the same as is fitted now

Marmaduke · Apr 10, 2016

Sometimes you can be dealing with someone else's bodge though

lhandrover · Apr 10, 2016

Ah, I see - I hadn't reckoned on that. It looks like is been on some time (as the grubby pics show you) so I'll go for a straight replacement if I can, I don't fancy messing with the pipework - as JM said - its agro.

As the top can be moved around I can't see a problem using it - fuel volumes should be pretty similar NA & TD.

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