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Willem-Jan Markerink

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Wonder how many were made, never seen one of those before....

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In nl.auto redeprimeria@rede.it wrote:
> On 7 Feb 2004 04:15:07 GMT, "Willem-Jan Markerink"
> <w.j.markerink@a1.nl> wrote:
>>http://www.tanksforsale.co.uk/Dana/dana.htm
>>Wonder how many were made, never seen one of those before....

> Mooi chassis, zo'n Tatra.


En dan heb je ze nog niet horen rijden, er gaat maar weinig boven
luchtgekoeld :)

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blijven rijden in Den Haag.
 
complete with gun to blast out any pesky cliffs you want to turn into ramps
:)

Saw that last month, great toys aren't they :)


"Willem-Jan Markerink" <w.j.markerink@a1.nl> wrote in message
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> http://www.tanksforsale.co.uk/Dana/dana.htm
>
> Wonder how many were made, never seen one of those before....
>
> --
> Bye,
>
> Willem-Jan Markerink
>
> The desire to understand
> is sometimes far less intelligent than
> the inability to understand
>
> <w.j.markerink@a1.nl>
> [note: 'a-one' & 'en-el'!]



 
"rnf2" <rnf2@NOSPAMwaikato.ac.nz> wrote in news:40256c9c$1@news.iconz.co.nz:

> complete with gun to blast out any pesky cliffs you want to turn into ramps
>:)
>
> Saw that last month, great toys aren't they :)


And if you find that version a bit too stylish & slender, take the radar model:

http://www.jed.simonides.org/artillery/oscar/ondava_series/n-22/n22-intro.html



The only thing more cute is the Russian Bereg, 3.13m wide....:))
(but AFAIK, this Dana/Tatra is the only one with a real rotating turret)


http://www.jed.simonides.org/artillery/bravo/bereg_series/c2/c2-introduction.html
(nice camper base!....:))

http://www.jed.simonides.org/artillery/bravo/bereg_series/support/sup-introduction.html
(even better camper-base....:))))

http://legion.wplus.net/guide/army/tr/maz543.shtml
(complete series of versions)

http://veiculosmilitares.vilabol.uol.com.br/bereg.htm
(some spec's)

http://veiculosmilitares.vilabol.uol.com.br/fotos/iscander.htm
(modern rocket launcher version)



Or, if you think 8 wheels is a bit meager, try 12:

http://www.vif2.ru/users/rusarms/auto/maz/maz-547/MAZ-547A_02.jpg


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Willem-Jan Markerink

The desire to understand
is sometimes far less intelligent than
the inability to understand

<w.j.markerink@a1.nl>
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"Willem-Jan Markerink" <w.j.markerink@a1.nl> wrote in
news:Xns94892707BD872wjmarkerinka1nl@130.133.1.17:

> "rnf2" <rnf2@NOSPAMwaikato.ac.nz> wrote in
> news:40256c9c$1@news.iconz.co.nz:
>
>> complete with gun to blast out any pesky cliffs you want to turn into
>> ramps
>>:)
>>
>> Saw that last month, great toys aren't they :)

>
> And if you find that version a bit too stylish & slender, take the radar
> model:
>
> http://www.jed.simonides.org/artillery/oscar/ondava_series/n-22/n22-intro
> .html
>
>
>
> The only thing more cute is the Russian Bereg, 3.13m wide....:))
> (but AFAIK, this Dana/Tatra is the only one with a real rotating turret)
>
>
> http://www.jed.simonides.org/artillery/bravo/bereg_series/c2/c2-introduct
> ion.html (nice camper base!....:))
>
> http://www.jed.simonides.org/artillery/bravo/bereg_series/support/sup-int
> roduction.html (even better camper-base....:))))
>
> http://legion.wplus.net/guide/army/tr/maz543.shtml
> (complete series of versions)
>
> http://veiculosmilitares.vilabol.uol.com.br/bereg.htm
> (some spec's)
>
> http://veiculosmilitares.vilabol.uol.com.br/fotos/iscander.htm
> (modern rocket launcher version)
>
>
>
> Or, if you think 8 wheels is a bit meager, try 12:
>
> http://www.vif2.ru/users/rusarms/auto/maz/maz-547/MAZ-547A_02.jpg
>
>


Dang, these Russians don't know when to stop:

14x14 (might be 14x12, center axle hubs looks odd)

http://www.vif2.ru/users/rusarms/auto/maz/maz-7917/MZKT-7917_01.jpg

Oh well, why not 16x16:

http://www.vif2.ru/users/rusarms/auto/maz/maz-7922/MZKT-79221_01.jpg

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Willem-Jan Markerink

The desire to understand
is sometimes far less intelligent than
the inability to understand

<w.j.markerink@a1.nl>
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"Willem-Jan Markerink" <w.j.markerink@a1.nl> wrote in message
news:Xns94892B7D62B8wjmarkerinka1nl@130.133.1.17...
> "Willem-Jan Markerink" <w.j.markerink@a1.nl> wrote in
> news:Xns94892707BD872wjmarkerinka1nl@130.133.1.17:
>
> > "rnf2" <rnf2@NOSPAMwaikato.ac.nz> wrote in
> > news:40256c9c$1@news.iconz.co.nz:
> >
> >> complete with gun to blast out any pesky cliffs you want to turn into
> >> ramps
> >>:)
> >>
> >> Saw that last month, great toys aren't they :)

> >
> > And if you find that version a bit too stylish & slender, take the radar
> > model:
> >
> >

http://www.jed.simonides.org/artillery/oscar/ondava_series/n-22/n22-intro
> > .html
> >
> >
> >
> > The only thing more cute is the Russian Bereg, 3.13m wide....:))
> > (but AFAIK, this Dana/Tatra is the only one with a real rotating turret)
> >
> >
> >

http://www.jed.simonides.org/artillery/bravo/bereg_series/c2/c2-introduct
> > ion.html (nice camper base!....:))
> >
> >

http://www.jed.simonides.org/artillery/bravo/bereg_series/support/sup-int
> > roduction.html (even better camper-base....:))))
> >
> > http://legion.wplus.net/guide/army/tr/maz543.shtml
> > (complete series of versions)
> >
> > http://veiculosmilitares.vilabol.uol.com.br/bereg.htm
> > (some spec's)
> >
> > http://veiculosmilitares.vilabol.uol.com.br/fotos/iscander.htm
> > (modern rocket launcher version)
> >
> >
> >
> > Or, if you think 8 wheels is a bit meager, try 12:
> >
> > http://www.vif2.ru/users/rusarms/auto/maz/maz-547/MAZ-547A_02.jpg
> >
> >

>
> Dang, these Russians don't know when to stop:
>
> 14x14 (might be 14x12, center axle hubs looks odd)
>
> http://www.vif2.ru/users/rusarms/auto/maz/maz-7917/MZKT-7917_01.jpg
>
> Oh well, why not 16x16:
>
> http://www.vif2.ru/users/rusarms/auto/maz/maz-7922/MZKT-79221_01.jpg
>
> --
> Bye,
>
> Willem-Jan Markerink
>


Whoo hoo! thats their SS-20 nuke launcher bas isn't it. made to carry the
mobile missiles around so the Yankee nukes aimed at allt he concrete silos
wouldn't remove the retailiation second strike ability.

rhys


 
"Willem-Jan Markerink" <w.j.markerink@a1.nl> wrote in
news:Xns94892B7D62B8wjmarkerinka1nl@130.133.1.17:

> "Willem-Jan Markerink" <w.j.markerink@a1.nl> wrote in
> news:Xns94892707BD872wjmarkerinka1nl@130.133.1.17:
>
>> "rnf2" <rnf2@NOSPAMwaikato.ac.nz> wrote in
>> news:40256c9c$1@news.iconz.co.nz:
>>
>>> complete with gun to blast out any pesky cliffs you want to turn into
>>> ramps
>>>:)
>>>
>>> Saw that last month, great toys aren't they :)

>>
>> And if you find that version a bit too stylish & slender, take the radar
>> model:
>>
>> http://www.jed.simonides.org/artillery/oscar/ondava_series/n-22/n22-

intro
>> .html
>>
>>
>>
>> The only thing more cute is the Russian Bereg, 3.13m wide....:))
>> (but AFAIK, this Dana/Tatra is the only one with a real rotating turret)
>>
>>
>> http://www.jed.simonides.org/artillery/bravo/bereg_series/c2/c2-

introduct
>> ion.html (nice camper base!....:))
>>
>> http://www.jed.simonides.org/artillery/bravo/bereg_series/support/sup-

int
>> roduction.html (even better camper-base....:))))
>>
>> http://legion.wplus.net/guide/army/tr/maz543.shtml
>> (complete series of versions)
>>
>> http://veiculosmilitares.vilabol.uol.com.br/bereg.htm
>> (some spec's)
>>
>> http://veiculosmilitares.vilabol.uol.com.br/fotos/iscander.htm
>> (modern rocket launcher version)
>>
>>
>>
>> Or, if you think 8 wheels is a bit meager, try 12:
>>
>> http://www.vif2.ru/users/rusarms/auto/maz/maz-547/MAZ-547A_02.jpg
>>
>>

>
> Dang, these Russians don't know when to stop:
>
> 14x14 (might be 14x12, center axle hubs looks odd)
>
> http://www.vif2.ru/users/rusarms/auto/maz/maz-7917/MZKT-7917_01.jpg
>
> Oh well, why not 16x16:
>
> http://www.vif2.ru/users/rusarms/auto/maz/maz-7922/MZKT-79221_01.jpg
>


Okay, before some smart-ass beats me to it:

2m more width:
http://denisovets.narod.ru/maz/mazpages/maz7904.html

24x24 (yes, that's 12 axles)
http://www.vif2.ru/users/rusarms/auto/maz/maz-7907/MAZ-7907_01.jpg

(but at least driver & copilot can talk to eachother again....:))

A few more:

http://denisovets.narod.ru/maz/mazpages/maz7907.html

http://denisovets.narod.ru/maz/mazpages/maz79221.html

--
Bye,

Willem-Jan Markerink

The desire to understand
is sometimes far less intelligent than
the inability to understand

<w.j.markerink@a1.nl>
[note: 'a-one' & 'en-el'!]
 

> 24x24 (yes, that's 12 axles)
> http://www.vif2.ru/users/rusarms/auto/maz/maz-7907/MAZ-7907_01.jpg
>
> (but at least driver & copilot can talk to eachother again....:))
>
> A few more:
>
> http://denisovets.narod.ru/maz/mazpages/maz7907.html
>
> http://denisovets.narod.ru/maz/mazpages/maz79221.html


Did you check out specs on these? It's got 1250hp gas turbine engine, and
electrical transmission with 24 motors (one for each wheel). Weighs 200tons,
top speed 40kmh. It never went into production, only a couple were made. It
has been used to successfully transport 80ton boat over 150kms. Sheesh...
suspect this guy won't fit in my garage ;)

P


 
"Peter" <peter@greatnowhere.com> wrote in
news:c0544d$13cs2t$1@ID-97500.news.uni-berlin.de:

>
>> 24x24 (yes, that's 12 axles)
>> http://www.vif2.ru/users/rusarms/auto/maz/maz-7907/MAZ-7907_01.jpg
>>
>> (but at least driver & copilot can talk to eachother again....:))
>>
>> A few more:
>>
>> http://denisovets.narod.ru/maz/mazpages/maz7907.html
>>
>> http://denisovets.narod.ru/maz/mazpages/maz79221.html

>
> Did you check out specs on these?


No, my Russian language skills have become a bit rusty lately, sadly....;))

> It's got 1250hp gas turbine engine,
> and electrical transmission with 24 motors (one for each wheel).


Yeah, that made me wonder, the number of axles needed to make a different
type of propulsion more efficient, or to cope with increasing drive-train
slop....no use stepping on the pedal, and having the first axle move 1
second before the last one....:))
Note that according to the few rare frontal drawings, they all have
independant suspension, which makes it likely they used the central-tube-
frame concept like on the Tatra and Pinzgauer.
(anything else will twist like a pretzel anyway, over such a huge length,
when articulating)

> Weighs
> 200tons, top speed 40kmh. It never went into production, only a couple
> were made.


Don't think stuff like that ever sees serial production....:))
(if only for the fact that they can't produce enough tires so
quickly....;))

> It has been used to successfully transport 80ton boat over
> 150kms. Sheesh... suspect this guy won't fit in my garage ;)


Somewhere sometime there, they ev was a ship hull from titanium in
construction too....ordered by an European customer, with good contacts
with some titanium specialist company....well, contacts soured, company
went bankrupt, ship hull vanished.
Would have been the first and only titanium ship ever IIRC.

--
Bye,

Willem-Jan Markerink

The desire to understand
is sometimes far less intelligent than
the inability to understand

<w.j.markerink@a1.nl>
[note: 'a-one' & 'en-el'!]
 

"Willem-Jan Markerink" <w.j.markerink@a1.nl> wrote in message
news:Xns9489CF137A317wjmarkerinka1nl@130.133.1.17...
> "Peter" <peter@greatnowhere.com> wrote in
> news:c0544d$13cs2t$1@ID-97500.news.uni-berlin.de:
>
> >
> >> 24x24 (yes, that's 12 axles)
> >> http://www.vif2.ru/users/rusarms/auto/maz/maz-7907/MAZ-7907_01.jpg
> >>
> >> (but at least driver & copilot can talk to eachother again....:))
> >>
> >> A few more:
> >>
> >> http://denisovets.narod.ru/maz/mazpages/maz7907.html
> >>
> >> http://denisovets.narod.ru/maz/mazpages/maz79221.html

> >
> > Did you check out specs on these?

>
> No, my Russian language skills have become a bit rusty lately,

sadly....;))
>
> > It's got 1250hp gas turbine engine,
> > and electrical transmission with 24 motors (one for each wheel).

>
> Yeah, that made me wonder, the number of axles needed to make a different
> type of propulsion more efficient, or to cope with increasing drive-train
> slop....no use stepping on the pedal, and having the first axle move 1
> second before the last one....:))
> Note that according to the few rare frontal drawings, they all have
> independant suspension, which makes it likely they used the central-tube-
> frame concept like on the Tatra and Pinzgauer.
> (anything else will twist like a pretzel anyway, over such a huge length,
> when articulating)
>
> > Weighs
> > 200tons, top speed 40kmh. It never went into production, only a couple
> > were made.

>
> Don't think stuff like that ever sees serial production....:))
> (if only for the fact that they can't produce enough tires so
> quickly....;))
>
> > It has been used to successfully transport 80ton boat over
> > 150kms. Sheesh... suspect this guy won't fit in my garage ;)

>
> Somewhere sometime there, they ev was a ship hull from titanium in
> construction too....ordered by an European customer, with good contacts
> with some titanium specialist company....well, contacts soured, company
> went bankrupt, ship hull vanished.
> Would have been the first and only titanium ship ever IIRC.
>
> --
> Bye,


The russkis have some Titanium subs around IIRC, they wanted the extra depth
capacity to get below where US torps were crushed by the water pressure is
one explanation I've heard... sounds a bit far fetched tho... :) more
likely they wanted to get below deep thermoclines to hide from sonar.


 
>> Weighs
>> 200tons, top speed 40kmh. It never went into production, only a
>> couple were made.

>
> Don't think stuff like that ever sees serial production....:))
> (if only for the fact that they can't produce enough tires so
> quickly....;))


In fact it was supposed to go into serial... Russians intended to carry most
of their second-generation ICBMs on these. Since 2nd gen never materialized
these trucks were scrapped. What a waste of R&D... some serious work must
have gone into these vehicles.

P


 
"Peter" <peter@greatnowhere.com> wrote in
news:c07ejb$12h8fa$1@ID-97500.news.uni-berlin.de:

>>> Weighs
>>> 200tons, top speed 40kmh. It never went into production, only a
>>> couple were made.

>>
>> Don't think stuff like that ever sees serial production....:))
>> (if only for the fact that they can't produce enough tires so
>> quickly....;))

>
> In fact it was supposed to go into serial... Russians intended to carry
> most of their second-generation ICBMs on these. Since 2nd gen never
> materialized these trucks were scrapped. What a waste of R&D... some
> serious work must have gone into these vehicles.
>
> P


Shame....I believe that some other ICBM-carrier(s) did earn a place in a
military museum somewhere....thought I saw a picture to that extend.

But I guess they only want proud & proven stuff, not prototypes that never
saw production due to lack of funding....:))

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Bye,

Willem-Jan Markerink

The desire to understand
is sometimes far less intelligent than
the inability to understand

<w.j.markerink@a1.nl>
[note: 'a-one' & 'en-el'!]
 
On Mon, 9 Feb 2004 11:41:21 +1300, "rnf2" <rnf2@NOSPAMwaikato.ac.nz>
wrote:

>The russkis have some Titanium subs around IIRC, they wanted the extra depth
>capacity to get below where US torps were crushed by the water pressure is
>one explanation I've heard... sounds a bit far fetched tho... :) more
>likely they wanted to get below deep thermoclines to hide from sonar.


Tom Clancy mentions Ti hulls on several occasions. They were either
particularly bad or good at making noise when changing depths, IIRC.

Jasper
 

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