"Adrian" <spamtrap@achapman.freeisp.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Mark Pewsey (news@pewsey.i12.com) gurgled happily, sounding much like they
> were saying :
>
> >| Any ideas on how much an Air-conditioning service on a Shogun Pinin
> >| should be? Local main dealer is quoting £54 + vat.
>
> Sounds reasonable, if it includes a regas.
>
> >| AC is still working, but doesn't seem as frigid as I remember it!
>
> It needs a regas.
>
> > I had my Land Rover Defender done a few months ago. Doubt the vehicle
> > type matters - air-con is air-con is...
>
> It does, but not massively so. Some older cars will have the older gas
> (R12) in the system - that's now been banned, but the newer gas (R134a)
> isn't a straight drop-in. AIUI, there's a different gas (R314?) that is,
> but it's not the normal - that would require a change of seals. The new
> stuff is also less efficient.
AFAIK R12 is only banned as far as it's manufacture is concerned.
I think you'll find it is still permissable to use *reclaimed* R12.
If you can find any!
With an old R12 system it's probably better to have the system converted to
use R134a.
From what I've read, all the alternatives solutions are not as satisfactory.
They all seem to need more frequent regassing.
Mike.
