Was there a year when P322 reliability became acceptable?

Was there a year when P322 reliability became acceptable? As in, as reliable as a normal car? I'm not expecting perfection but not a constant nag of nigles with the odd expensive failure

I have a budget of £35k to buy a rr, can get a 2012 2012 for that price. Looking at 4.4 tdv8.

I'm seriously put off by reliability stories though but most of what I read on here and other fora seems to concern older higher milage cars.

I'm looking at ones with under 40k miles on and we do about 8k a year. No interest in petrol as the range and consumption make it too annoying.

Was there a year when they sorted these cars out, when tata / jlr made enough investment to fix the niggles? Was the 8 speed zf box solid or do they still lunch themselves?

We've had a 2012 evoque for 18 months and it's solid but is that cos it's an all new model?

I can't be doing with a car that's always developing annoying faults as our other family car is a porsche 997 and it's too much of a squeeze for 4 of us even juat for emergencies !!!

What's a P322?

Sorry L322

perleman said:

Sorry L322

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L322 was better after 2006 would not touch anything before that.

May be better asking on http://www.fullfatrr.com/forum/index.php
They seem to have a lot more money and buy newer cars than us on here

Considering that a 2009 rr is worth less than 20k Id say you're barking mad. Over 3 years it's going to cost you over 15k in depreciation before you've even started fixing it. For that you might as well go and lease a brand new one. It seems like you can afford it.

Probably need the extra £15k for maintenance. Colleague's 2012 RR would have cost close to that in repairs for the first 3 years from new if not under warranty from LR.

You could say that about anything though couldn't you, at some point you decide what pricepoint to buy, for example I could buy a £1k Rangey, and put £34k aside for repairs
Typically newer cars should have less faults as they are a later development and also parts generally wear over time
These kinds of replies make a 2013 Cayenne at the same price seem much more appealing even if it isn't as plush / comfy

In essence I would of agreed ... but knowing a diesel injection specialist and a garage owner ..they would beg to differ, reality is throw a coin, they get all marques throwing wobbles, from Audi with weak clutches and failing injection units on BMW....
Yet through the years they still show inherent weakness so obviously not revising within design life....

The problem with buying a very expensive top marque car just out of warranty can lead to some pretty horrendous bills down the line. Parts will be very expensive for a start. New revisions carry the same faults & new ones into the mix that don't yet have the benefit of this huge knowledge pool to help out with . As said, leasing is an option but i'd cringe at paying £1000+ a month.

Not really sure what the comment above about leasing means. I have £35k, if I spend that on a 2012 Westminster & run it for 6 years it will be worth say £10k at the end, costing me £25k plus maintenance.
To lease a new one would involve putting maybe £7k down, then monthly payments of around £800+. That would give me 3 years of a brand new RR that I would then hand back
What do I do after 3 years & handing the car back?

Just an option. As long as you put 10k away for the inevitable then at least you own a RR that you can keep on top of. But too often folks spend their full budget on the purchase, or the 'RR Funds' get spent elsewhere leading to an expensive junk of metal sitting on the drive.

25k loss in 6 years. Sod that just to drive a secondhand rangie lol

Newsflash, car in depreciation shocker

"for example I could buy a £1k Rangey, and put £34k aside for repairs."
A p38 if i am not mistaken.
From the guys first post, i would guess an x something would be more his style from bmw.

Or buy another Porsche

I suppose it all comes down to an individual's definition of reliable - to me a reliable vehicle is one that will start first time any time of the day or night, take me anywhere (& back) without having to worry about whether I will encounter any problems & cost no more than scheduled servicing & mileage-related replacement items. I have a near 30 year old RR & 10 year old Ford that will accomplish that. When you consider the years of technological experience behind LR & other manufactures it's a scandal that the reliability of their products is so appalling - but that doesn't stop punters buying them & that's all that matters.

My comment about leasing was just an option, I'm not looking into the exact figures but just saying that anybody that buys a 4 year old rr for 35k needs help. By the time you've spent 3 years of servicing and out of the blue repair costs you may be better off buying a new one. In 6 years I can't see a 10 year old rr being worth 10k, Westminster or not. The new model will have truly flooded the market by then. Look at a lot, they are bought new and go back to LR the day the warranty expires. Then they get bought again second hand but as soon as the new owner gets the first big repair bill they get sold on because people underestimate the running costs. All I'm saying is that over 3 years you stand to lose at least 15k. How much is a timing belt replacement? New turbo? Gearbox? Torque converter? All things that can and do go wrong added to the initial loss gives some pretty drastic cost per mile. I'm not saying don't buy one, just that I don't understand anybody that does.

perleman said:

Was there a year when P322 reliability became acceptable? As in, as reliable as a normal car? I'm not expecting perfection but not a constant nag of nigles with the odd expensive failure

I have a budget of £35k to buy a rr, can get a 2012 2012 for that price. Looking at 4.4 tdv8.

I'm seriously put off by reliability stories though but most of what I read on here and other fora seems to concern older higher milage cars.

I'm looking at ones with under 40k miles on and we do about 8k a year. No interest in petrol as the range and consumption make it too annoying.

Was there a year when they sorted these cars out, when tata / jlr made enough investment to fix the niggles? Was the 8 speed zf box solid or do they still lunch themselves?

We've had a 2012 evoque for 18 months and it's solid but is that cos it's an all new model?

I can't be doing with a car that's always developing annoying faults as our other family car is a porsche 997 and it's too much of a squeeze for 4 of us even juat for emergencies !!!

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All cars have problems. Go on any marque specific forum and you'll see evidence of this. Some cars however get more media and public attention.

300bhp/ton said:

All cars have problems. Go on any marque specific forum and you'll see evidence of this. Some cars however get more media and public attention.

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Very true, I've been driving a renault megane scenic for almost 6 years against lots of people's advice but it was cheap so you pay Ya money n take Ya chances. It's had issues but still cheaper than its ford/VW equivalent.