uprated headlamps - a warning

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Austin Shackles

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Just spent an hour or so fixing a friend's car.

someone previously had fitted 100/55W bulbs, as I found out when
investigating why the headlights had completely died, which is of course not
funny when driving in the dark. At least they didn't do what mine did on
the 110, and go out when approaching a corner.

switchwork overheated, melted the connector. Had to replace the connector
for the dipswitch and the switch unit, and of course fit proper-sized bulbs.

--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
"Pereant qui ante nos nostra dixerunt"
(confound the men who have made our remarks before us.)
Aelius Donatus (4th Cent.) [St. Jerome, Commentary on Ecclesiastes]
 
TonyB wrote:

>> someone previously had fitted 100/55W bulbs, as I found out when
>> investigating why the headlights had completely died, which is of course
> not
>> funny when driving in the dark. At least they didn't do what mine did on
>> the 110, and go out when approaching a corner.
>>
>> switchwork overheated, melted the connector. Had to replace the
>> connector for the dipswitch and the switch unit, and of course fit
>> proper-sized
> bulbs.
>
> Thanks Austin.
> As I've said before, the LR's appear to be the only vehicles that cannot
> cope with off-road bulbs.....
>

Which is why mine now has a set of relays with their own feed which use the
original headlamp wiring for the relay coil.

I'd actually recommend doing this as a matter of course - the light output
even with standard bulbs is quite a bit improved with this setup - the
resistance in the standard wiring must be phenomenal

P.
 
> someone previously had fitted 100/55W bulbs, as I found out when
> investigating why the headlights had completely died, which is of course
not
> funny when driving in the dark. At least they didn't do what mine did on
> the 110, and go out when approaching a corner.
>
> switchwork overheated, melted the connector. Had to replace the connector
> for the dipswitch and the switch unit, and of course fit proper-sized
bulbs.

Thanks Austin.
As I've said before, the LR's appear to be the only vehicles that cannot
cope with off-road bulbs.....

TonyB


 
TonyB wrote:
>> someone previously had fitted 100/55W bulbs, as I found out when
>> investigating why the headlights had completely died, which is of course
> not
>> funny when driving in the dark. At least they didn't do what mine did on
>> the 110, and go out when approaching a corner.
>>
>> switchwork overheated, melted the connector. Had to replace the connector
>> for the dipswitch and the switch unit, and of course fit proper-sized
> bulbs.
>
> Thanks Austin.
> As I've said before, the LR's appear to be the only vehicles that cannot
> cope with off-road bulbs.....

Its what destroyed the panel loom on our ambi too.

Steve
 
On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 22:22:06 +0000, Steve
<[email protected]> wrote:

>TonyB wrote:
>>> someone previously had fitted 100/55W bulbs, as I found out when
>>> investigating why the headlights had completely died, which is of course
>> not
>>> funny when driving in the dark. At least they didn't do what mine did on
>>> the 110, and go out when approaching a corner.
>>>
>>> switchwork overheated, melted the connector. Had to replace the connector
>>> for the dipswitch and the switch unit, and of course fit proper-sized
>> bulbs.
>>
>> Thanks Austin.
>> As I've said before, the LR's appear to be the only vehicles that cannot
>> cope with off-road bulbs.....
>
>Its what destroyed the panel loom on our ambi too.

I dont think i'd even entertain the thought of running anything more
than standard bulbs on the 101 original wiring.

I was going to rewire mine and fit new normal wattage halogens. as it
is its got the orignals in and I dont think theyre even getting the
full 12v as they are like candles!


 
On or around Fri, 23 Dec 2005 21:40:50 +0000 (UTC), "TonyB"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>> someone previously had fitted 100/55W bulbs, as I found out when
>> investigating why the headlights had completely died, which is of course
>not
>> funny when driving in the dark. At least they didn't do what mine did on
>> the 110, and go out when approaching a corner.
>>
>> switchwork overheated, melted the connector. Had to replace the connector
>> for the dipswitch and the switch unit, and of course fit proper-sized
>bulbs.
>
>Thanks Austin.
>As I've said before, the LR's appear to be the only vehicles that cannot
>cope with off-road bulbs.....

this was a monetgo. The *wiring* is massive fat stuff, but the switch
and/or connectors don't seem to have liked it.
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
Soon shall thy arm, unconquered steam! afar Drag the slow barge, or
drive the rapid car; Or on wide-waving wings expanded bear the
flying chariot through the field of air.- Erasmus Darwin (1731-1802)
 

"Austin Shackles" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Just spent an hour or so fixing a friend's car.
>
> someone previously had fitted 100/55W bulbs, as I found out when
> investigating why the headlights had completely died, which is of course
> not
> funny when driving in the dark. At least they didn't do what mine did on
> the 110, and go out when approaching a corner.
>
> switchwork overheated, melted the connector. Had to replace the connector
> for the dipswitch and the switch unit, and of course fit proper-sized
> bulbs.
>
> --
> Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
> "Pereant qui ante nos nostra dixerunt"
> (confound the men who have made our remarks before us.)
> Aelius Donatus (4th Cent.) [St. Jerome, Commentary on Ecclesiastes]

pity he didn't read alt fan landrover headlight posts before he fitted
them then.It seems to come up about once a month, lucky really that the loom
didn't catch fire as well
http://www.landyzone.co.uk/lz/f31/110-headlight-26829.html
http://www.landyzone.co.uk/lz/f31/defender-head-lights-26143.html
Derek


 
Austin Shackles wrote:
> Just spent an hour or so fixing a friend's car.
>
> someone previously had fitted 100/55W bulbs, as I found out when
> investigating why the headlights had completely died, which is of
> course not funny when driving in the dark. At least they didn't do
> what mine did on the 110, and go out when approaching a corner.
>
> switchwork overheated, melted the connector. Had to replace the
> connector for the dipswitch and the switch unit, and of course fit
> proper-sized bulbs.

Also illegal too. Better to fit some decent 'quality' lamps, no hike in wattage, just a better spectrum
of light. The Xenon +40% (same wattage) i fitted to the RRC have made a nice difference. I made sure
(after all the hullabaloo on here) that they didn't blind anyone

--
Subaru WRX
Range Rover LSE (Bob)

'"gimme the f*ckin' money"


 
Tom Woods <[email protected]> uttered summat worrerz funny about:
>> Its what destroyed the panel loom on our ambi too.
>
> I dont think i'd even entertain the thought of running anything more
> than standard bulbs on the 101 original wiring.
>
> I was going to rewire mine and fit new normal wattage halogens. as it
> is its got the orignals in and I dont think theyre even getting the
> full 12v as they are like candles!

If I understand the operators manual correctly then the wiring was installed
prior to any consideration for Eberspacher heaters. Therefore it's supposed
to get hot, tis the only thing that did in the GS's then they bunged the
Ambi bodies on and forgot to remove the electrical central heating.


;-)

Lee


 
On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 19:29:19 +0000, Austin Shackles
<[email protected]> wrote:

>
>Just spent an hour or so fixing a friend's car.
>
>someone previously had fitted 100/55W bulbs, as I found out when
>investigating why the headlights had completely died, which is of course not
>funny when driving in the dark. At least they didn't do what mine did on
>the 110, and go out when approaching a corner.
>
>switchwork overheated, melted the connector. Had to replace the connector
>for the dipswitch and the switch unit, and of course fit proper-sized bulbs.

That'll learn you to fit over-power headlamps without upgrading the
wiring and switchgear to cope. You're lucky it didn't catch fire.

Alex
 
Alex <[email protected]> uttered summat worrerz funny about:
> On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 19:29:19 +0000, Austin Shackles
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>> Just spent an hour or so fixing a friend's car.
>>
>> someone previously had fitted 100/55W bulbs, as I found out when
>> investigating why the headlights had completely died, which is of
>> course not funny when driving in the dark. At least they didn't do
>> what mine did on the 110, and go out when approaching a corner.
>>
>> switchwork overheated, melted the connector. Had to replace the
>> connector for the dipswitch and the switch unit, and of course fit
>> proper-sized bulbs.
>
> That'll learn you to fit over-power headlamps without upgrading the
> wiring and switchgear to cope. You're lucky it didn't catch fire.
>
> Alex

Nah read the post... Austin's mates motor. Hence Austin very lucky.

Lee


 
Larry wrote:
> Never herd of relays ?
>
>

Is the collective noun for a group of relays really a herd?

<BCG>

--
Regards

Steve G
 
Tom Woods wrote:
>> Its what destroyed the panel loom on our ambi too.
>
> I dont think i'd even entertain the thought of running anything more
> than standard bulbs on the 101 original wiring.
It wasn't, I hasten to add, me guvnor. It WAS the reason Wendy only cost
me 2 grand, so I can't really complain. Bob has relays on his
headlights, courtesy of Mike Derrick, occasionally of this parish. Did a
very neat job too.

When I rewire Wendy (oh, come the day), She'll be all relays.


Steve
>
 
SteveG wrote:
> Larry wrote:
>> Never herd of relays ?
>>
>>
>
> Is the collective noun for a group of relays really a herd?
>
> <BCG>
>
No, its a <CLUNK>

Steve
 
On or around Fri, 23 Dec 2005 23:51:20 -0000, "Nige"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>Also illegal too. Better to fit some decent 'quality' lamps, no hike in wattage, just a better spectrum
>of light. The Xenon +40% (same wattage) i fitted to the RRC have made a nice difference. I made sure
>(after all the hullabaloo on here) that they didn't blind anyone

I know that, and so does the owner, and so does the previous owner. Chances
are the bulbs were fitted before that. Do you check what bulbs are in the
headlamps when you buy a motor, if they're working well?

OK, I do, 'co I tend to have the expensive kind fitted at want to put 'em on
the new one, or more validly, not sell 'em with the old one.

but apart from that, I wouldn't check 'em unless there was a problem.

RAC bloke crosswired the sidelights to the dipped beam, and uprated the
relevant fuse, as a "get-you-home" fix. Not entirely sure that was legit,
really. The sidelight circuit and switchgear is designed to take 4
sidelights (or maybe 6 if it has double rear bulbs) and a passel of panel
lights, for a total of about 50 watts - adding another 100W to it is rather
a serious overload. The journey home was quite a distance, I gather. Wonder
if the RAC would have admitted liability if it went on fire...
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
"For millions of years, mankind lived just like the animals. Then
something happened which unleashed the power of our imagination -
we learned to talk." Pink Floyd (1994)
 
On or around Sat, 24 Dec 2005 00:22:21 +0000, Alex
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 19:29:19 +0000, Austin Shackles
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>Just spent an hour or so fixing a friend's car.
>>
>>someone previously had fitted 100/55W bulbs, as I found out when
>>investigating why the headlights had completely died, which is of course not
>>funny when driving in the dark. At least they didn't do what mine did on
>>the 110, and go out when approaching a corner.
>>
>>switchwork overheated, melted the connector. Had to replace the connector
>>for the dipswitch and the switch unit, and of course fit proper-sized bulbs.
>
>That'll learn you to fit over-power headlamps without upgrading the
>wiring and switchgear to cope. You're lucky it didn't catch fire.

read the post properly, yerbugger.

on the 110, I didn't have over-powered bulbs. The switch just died. it's
possible it had been abused in the past though.
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
"For millions of years, mankind lived just like the animals. Then
something happened which unleashed the power of our imagination -
we learned to talk." Pink Floyd (1994)
 
On or around Sat, 24 Dec 2005 00:35:11 -0000, "Lee_D"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>Alex <[email protected]> uttered summat worrerz funny about:
>> On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 19:29:19 +0000, Austin Shackles
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Just spent an hour or so fixing a friend's car.
>>>
>>> someone previously had fitted 100/55W bulbs, as I found out when
>>> investigating why the headlights had completely died, which is of
>>> course not funny when driving in the dark. At least they didn't do
>>> what mine did on the 110, and go out when approaching a corner.
>>>
>>> switchwork overheated, melted the connector. Had to replace the
>>> connector for the dipswitch and the switch unit, and of course fit
>>> proper-sized bulbs.
>>
>> That'll learn you to fit over-power headlamps without upgrading the
>> wiring and switchgear to cope. You're lucky it didn't catch fire.
>>
>> Alex
>
>Nah read the post... Austin's mates motor. Hence Austin very lucky.

I tellyer one thing - having the lights all go out in the dark is a good one
for testing whether you were really looking where you were going... If so,
you have a mental picture of enough of the road ahead to stop without going
off it.

--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
"For millions of years, mankind lived just like the animals. Then
something happened which unleashed the power of our imagination -
we learned to talk." Pink Floyd (1994)
 
Steve wrote:

>>
> No, its a <CLUNK>
>
> Steve

Surely it's a 'click' a 'clunk' would be contactors!

Nige

--
Subaru WRX
Range Rover LSE (Bob)

'"gimme the f*ckin' money"


 
Austin Shackles wrote:
> On or around Fri, 23 Dec 2005 23:51:20 -0000, "Nige"
> <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>
>> Also illegal too. Better to fit some decent 'quality' lamps, no hike
>> in wattage, just a better spectrum of light. The Xenon +40% (same
>> wattage) i fitted to the RRC have made a nice difference. I made
>> sure (after all the hullabaloo on here) that they didn't blind
>> anyone
>
> I know that, and so does the owner, and so does the previous owner.
> Chances are the bulbs were fitted before that. Do you check what
> bulbs are in the headlamps when you buy a motor, if they're working
> well?

No, would you hell as like matey! With any of LR meagre early headlamp offerings it would be, of course,
obvious had you driven by glow worm light before!!!


 
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