P38A Upgrading front airbags with arnott gen 3 ... ? Anybody done this

Considering upgrading the front airbags with Arnott Series 3 .. ( edit .. brain fade )
different shape profile and lifetime warranty ..
anybody done this ?

Would love to know if they are as good as claimed

Cheers

Gb

https://www.arnotteurope.com/produc...and-rover-range-rover-p38a-left-or-right.html

This warranty does not apply to: (i) cosmetic damage, such as scratches, nicks and dents; (ii) normal wear and tear, unless product damage has occurred due to a defect in materials or workmanship; (iii) damage caused by accident, abuse, misuse, water, flood, fire, or other acts of nature or external causes; (iv) damage caused by improper installation; or (v) damage to a product that has been modified or altered without the written permission of Arnott.

So basically they have a lifetime warranty until they wear out.

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Thks

I must admit that the LW is the bonus feature with them .. the series 1 arnotts have the same warranty
However the core value point for me to find out
is the changed profile on the edit gen 3 ( series 2 )
re the spring rate reversal
softer at max height
and stiffer at motorway ...
do they improve low height handling and or off road traction (Softer )

davidsmith1307 said:

This warranty does not apply to: (i) cosmetic damage, such as scratches, nicks and dents; (ii) normal wear and tear, unless product damage has occurred due to a defect in materials or workmanship; (iii) damage caused by accident, abuse, misuse, water, flood, fire, or other acts of nature or external causes; (iv) damage caused by improper installation; or (v) damage to a product that has been modified or altered without the written permission of Arnott.

So basically they have a lifetime warranty until they wear out.

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Yes, @Datatek has been running on them for years.

So gen 3 ( not 2 ) are worth it then ?

I have been running Arnott gen 2 all round for over 7 years now and they still look as good as new. I got them at a promotional price which meant they cost not a lot more than Dunlops and at the time there was a lifetime warranty so it was ano brainer. There is no greater range of movement, for that you would need the horribly expensive Gen3's.
On my P38 restoration project, I have just fitted Dunlops all round as the Gen2's are now a lot more expensive.
The ride on the Arnotts is marginally better, but that could just be differences in shocks. The main advantage in my eyes is the longer service life, with Dunlops I would be looking at changing them again in the near future.
I run the EAS locked at motorway height, 6 height changes in the 30Km run to the shops struck me as stupid, no advantages, just wearing the compressor out.

I fitted Arnott ones to mine although I cant remember if gen1 or 2 to mine about 9 years ago and still going strong, I to went for them for the different spring rate and have found them good as to how much better hard to say as the old ones were shot would I fit them again yes.
Edit having read Datatek`s reply mine were gen 2.

brianp38dse said:

I fitted Arnott ones to mine although I cant remember if gen1 or 2 to mine about 9 years ago and still going strong, I to went for them for the different spring rate and have found them good as to how much better hard to say as the old ones were shot would I fit them again yes.

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They would be Gen2 unless you found some very old stock.

Cheers for confirming that Datatek

Oops brain fade here .. it was the GENERATION series 3 I was asking about ( my fault ) ( PLONKER )
£220 plus vat each...

Grey_beard said:

Oops brain fade here .. it was the GENERATION series 3 was asking about ( my fault ) ( PLONKER )
£220 plus vat each

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Ow. That's the price of 4 Dunlops. Will they last 4 times as long? Be interested how the ride compares though.

At that price I would say not worth it for what you will gain, when you can get a set of Dunlop's for that.
Edit Grrrrr beat me

Grrrrrr said:

Ow. That's the price of 4 Dunlops. Will they last 4 times as long? Be interested how the ride compares though.

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Thats whats stopping me atm .. i have new dunlops on the back .. they can stay .. aerobus on the fronts dirt cheap but they are not going to last .. already noticeable wear after 6000 miles... not impressed but they were cheap

Datatek said:

I run the EAS locked at motorway height, 6 height changes in the 30Km run to the shops struck me as stupid, no advantages, just wearing the compressor out.

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How did you lock it .. ?

Ta GB

Grey_beard said:

How did you lock it .. ?

Ta GB

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Check your owners manual under towing, button on the dash locks the suspension to prevent it lowering and bringing the jockey wheel into contact with the road.

I have Gen 3s on one of mine with Koni shocks which is considered one of the best setups and it's, like all these upgrades, very hard to say. I can tell you the aluminium bases look good when you look underneath.

Could really do with one as it came off the production line originally with everything brand new to benchmark against. It isn't up to Range Rover Sport levels of ride quality I can say that for definite. You can't get over the fact it's on beam axles rather than independent suspension which means drains and potholes can still have quite a thumping effect.

I actually also don't think it's quite as good a ride as a disco 2 with air on the back only either but I think the ACE is such an enhancement to the ride you notice the rest less maybe.

I run mine locked on motorway as well, just press he lock button to the right of the height one then press the height one down one and it should stay at that height. simpulls

tomcat59alan said:

Check your owners manual under towing, button on the dash locks the suspension to prevent it lowering and bringing the jockey wheel into contact with the road.

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Ah ok i thought that just locked it in std height or off road height ... not mway .. useful ..

I've got gen 2s allround. As above a bit better but beam axles aren't the best riders tbh. Gen 3s aren't going to keep me awake at night dreaming what may have been. I have got s#$tpart cellular Dynamics and i really like them. ( Brought secondhand). Mines far to quick for it's handling anyway. Oddly i never lock mine i have done but i feel moving the sensors helps keep everything ok.

It's always been fashionable to slate Britpart on forums but I think their cellular dynamics shocks are pretty good and you'd struggle with an argument for spending more I found them vastly superior to old man emu on a Disco.

The problem on the P38 with shocks is it's a trade off between ride and lateral stability where you can't quite square the circle. Most options considered superior to OE the ride is a bit too harsh particularly with poly bushes, again even the much vaunted SuperPro - changing the ones on the end to elastomer I think does improve things slightly even if you leave the rest poly. Stick OE shocks on and you get the softer ride back but the body roll through corners to match.

I think really the travesty is they never fitted ACE to their flagship model despite it being fitted to the Disco since 1998 that's what's really missing and you just can't make up for with premium airbags and firmer more expensive shocks without compromising the ride.

What I have been meaning to try, as the Konis are adjustable, is making it softer at the front where the ARB is and the radius arms face potholes and leaving it firmer at the back that lacks an ARB and has a trailing arm.