Thinking of some major work whats your opinion.

Hi folks
Recently bought my 1998 110 defender turbo. It has 88836 miles on the clock. The engine is reconditoned but its not perfect. Its leaking oil from the rear end were it joins the gearbox. Not huge amounts but enough for me to think right time for a better engine.

So have been toying with the idea of a v8 3.5 carb. Got a quote for a engine and gearbox and bellhousing and floorplates and tunnel for £799.
Dont care much for fuel economy its not my daily vehicle and my car farts fuel for britain so im used to high running costs but prefer to have power and torque.Im not gona thrash her as i have 235/85/16 greenway machos so ill slide of the side of the road if i abuse her. I think ill have to upgrade the back drums to discs?. I want to replace the entire wiring in the ladny too so its ideal just im not sure what is all invloved.

Structurally the landy is solid and she drives very well after i done a bit of tweaking here and there.

So there you ahve it can you tell me if possible wahts all involved. I intend on keeping this landy for a long time so willing to spend accordingly.

Thanks in advnace.

Put that engine in that age of car and it'll almost certainly fail an MOT test on emmisions.

Them Greenways you've got are the same tread pattern as my Insa Turbos - they're alright at speed, if a bit noisy and they grip pretty well except in the dry, a little more scary in the wet but far from dangerous.

Cheers,

FFS, would it no be easier just fittin' a gaskit or summit!!!! I'm ridin on 235/85/16's wi' a 200tdi enjun. nowt wrang wi' it, I'd stick wi' the deeezul masel'. Ffs, yer no ment tae gan hard off road

Hi
Coukld you exaplain more if possible? im not up to speed on what VOSA expect these days. The engines are very low milage and i plan to basically rebuild the landy to work around a v8. Thanks

Beer is flowing lol

haha fast replys on this site thats ace! common the rummble amkes it worth while how can i scare things with a smokey old joe, na the current engine is strong it pulls fine but i always wanted a v8 landy and i know if i thrash it ill kill it. AHve a fast van and a fast car so know how to respect speed and the vehicle. Its ok i ahve already thought of putting a v8 supercahrged engine into my transit... now that would be fun.

Boner said:

Hi
Coukld you exaplain more if possible? im not up to speed on what VOSA expect these days. The engines are very low milage and i plan to basically rebuild the landy to work around a v8. Thanks

Beer is flowing lol

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The whisky's flowin' weel anaw christ kens aboot that VOSA stuff but why no just stick wi' the deezul?

1998 car with a petrol lump would need to be fuel injected, multi-valve and have cat(s)... there's a few people on here know a hell of a lot more about the reqs for MOT and emissions than me - Stig is probbly yer best bet there.

Diesels on the other hand, only need to pass a smoke test unless they're newer than (I think) 2001 or so.

Cheers,

Boner said:

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haha fast replys on this site thats ace! common the rummble amkes it worth while how can i scare things with a smokey old joe, na the current engine is strong it pulls fine but i always wanted a v8 landy and i know if i thrash it ill kill it. AHve a fast van and a fast car so know how to respect speed and the vehicle. Its ok i ahve already thought of putting a v8 supercahrged engine into my transit... now that would be fun.

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Ffs, take a chill pill

finding theses days that the chuffs that own the garages have put petorl or should i say deszil prices so close to petrool that its caheaper to run petrol than dezil.

that almost looks like a riddle.

Ill get a phonecall on monday bot the V8 engines , other option is transit engines or tdI200 what prices you pay for em these days. Its no gona be ma v8 but gota look into it all as i will buy the V8 on monday if i cant find an alternative.#

Cheers guys appricaite the advice .

Boner said:

finding theses days that the chuffs that own the garages have put petorl or should i say deszil prices so close to petrool that its caheaper to run petrol than dezil.

that almost looks like a riddle.

Ill get a phonecall on monday bot the V8 engines , other option is transit engines or tdI200 what prices you pay for em these days. Its no gona be ma v8 but gota look into it all as i will buy the V8 on monday if i cant find an alternative.#

Cheers guys appricaite the advice .

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So, whit's wrang wi' the yin ye've got? Ever thought 'boot cookin' oil?

I did say oil and no drippin' din't ah

Hi Boner,

You're going to waste loads and loads of money! Just cos it's leaking oil doesn't mean the engine is buggered by any means! I have just resolved the exact same problem with my 21 year old 2.5 litre naturaly aspirated diesel simply by removing the oil sump and putting in a new card gasket. The leak, almost definitely the sump is likely caused by a slack mechanic or cheapo previous owner "botching" the gasket with a silicone sealant rather than a cork or card gasket. It's simple to do and will solve all your problems!

You may also want to pressure wash the engine to blast off any crude oil deposits that have clumped together around the altenator. Once it gets hot, it'll run down the engine block, around the sump and towards the back of the engine where the sump touches the gearbox, thus looking like a nasty leak.

No need for a new engine!
-Pos

Giz yer injun an stuff if you take it out!!!

Awight

ill try explain now im sober..
There aint much wrong with the current engine inafct im quiet surprised how well she pulls and the fuel aint bad at all and the leak not that bad either but bad nuff to justify fixing it. Yea it may be a simple gasket but it seems to be that up here evrywhere i phone says its goan cost loads as the engine will hae come oot and blah blah blah well feck that **** i dont trust garrages at the best of times and the one i do is just to busy the now and i dont ahve landy contacts.
I dought very much the engine is gone die as its strong as an ox sounds great and does exactly what it says on the tin im just sick o leaving a good tablespoon maybe 2 of oil within a few hours wherever i park.i am a perfectionist when it comes to my engines none of my other vehicles drop so much as an ants **** worth of anyhting. Im trying to figure out whats it gona cost and if alot am i worth changing the engine to something better. Had the TDI200 converstion in mind all long but cant get a clear cost on them and did not even think of the v8 till these badboys came up on offer. their low milage and i was gona see boot one anyways for a 90 project laters so why not but seems ill be fooked either way by the looks o things.
So if such a bad option were do you guys get your TDI convertions and how much all in we talking cause these v8 are 799 all in and low milage and very good nick. Coming off fleat vehichles.Failing that who would be willing to fix the engine for me or atleast have a look and maybe diagnose the problem so it can be fixed. Love the landy know its 20 years old but canny be doing with her weeing evrywhere. Do appricaite the advice guys but do want this sorted. I need options and prices id pay for someone to fix it for me anaw..Cheers again

If it's the rear crankseal then the genuine part from the main dealers is 23 quid or I've seen pattern ones at a fiver, if it's leaking from the joint between the clutch cover and the block then it's just a matter of slapping some gobbo on it. Either way the engine or gearbox has to come out. I reckon the gearbox is easier to take out cos there's less gubbins to take off but others may disagree, any how it int that difficult and if you set your stall out you could have it done in a weekend quite easily.

Cheers for the info Grunt.

Had it in the local garage the boys in there are a good bunch and very freindly seem to enjoy a good chat and appriciate an old vehicle.

On closer inspection the clutch cover is where the oil is collecting so its coming from that area maybe like you say the join. You can see the drops befor they have dropped "brilliant description" its not much but coming from that area. There are other samller runs of oil and a small water leak aswell so the garage has adviced me to hold fire and contact the boy who sold it to me and ask him why he stated its been serviced when its odviosuly not and even to go as far as to say its most likly not a recon engine even though runs fine and strong if not a bit leaky and smoky on startup.

Chassis and body and running gear are fine and brakes and steering are good now i have adjusted them so i think best bet is to contact him. He lives in Rowlands Gill so not to far if i have to drive back down with it.


On another note i asked about the v8 and there wont be a problem and it does not ahve to be fuel injected so the carb version would be fine but they adviced for overall offroad performance mainly lowend torque to go for the 200tdi so im on the lookout for a donor vehicle or a engine and box as they will do the convertion. I may still buy the v8 and make a 90 fun ofrroader to challenge their suzuki .

Cheers for the advice once i have the problems of the sale sorted ill get abck on track and rip that engine out and convert her.

Boner

well that makes sense! u sed at the beginning in ur 1st post that its a 1998 defender so i think every1 thought its a 300tdi but i take it that was a typo and u meant 1988?

if its a 2.5TD then go for it, change it for a tdi or v8, whichever takes ur fancy.

hehe yea more than likley was me drunk on the first thread.

Do appricaite the advice its good to get it from folk that own landys.

Need to decide now. Does anybody ahve any rough idea how much id pick up a tdi200 for and who and what price this conversion comes in at.

i presume with the v8 i will ahve to repalce tanks and wiring loom but it does come with seatbox,floorplates,engine,gearbox,radiator,cooling pipes,transmission tunnel for £799.

The landy ahs power steering and the brakes are very good but i ahve though of getting a disc back axle later on anyway to improve it further.

I intend on dropping the engine and box out of it the and offering it to the garage that does the job as they ahve just got in a kanakered safari 110 with a goosed engine and box and they aint got issues with how leaky it is and say im being a bit oer the top which is true but anyhoo.

Cheers

If you want a 200 tdi and upgrade to rear disks on the back I believe the best course of action is to buy a rusty knackered old disco and take the engine and rear axle which has disks and from what I have read the axle is a straight swap. The disco engine takes a bit more work to fit a defender but are much cheaper than ones from a defender.

I may be completly wrong and I am fairly sure someone will tell me if I am

nope spot on to put a 200tdi engine in the easiest way is to buy a steve parkers downpipe for bout £100 to modify the exhaust and other than that do exactly as stated here.

Putting a Disco 200TDi engine in a 90 - LR4x4 - The Land Rover Forum

cheers very muckle Dopey-1983 and Chris_Mack.

Excellent info on that page and saved for future refrence now i have decided to go down the TDi200 route.

Got my eyes open on fleebay and got a few local boys on the case that might know of some discos.

Ill see about the rear discs as after i stripped down the front calipers and gave them the once oer and dived into the rear drums have manged to get the brakes to a very strong posative feeling. No spongyness at all which i presume is good.

Till i get on with the TDi convertion i ahve ordered up parts to stop the leaks in the current engine alogn with all new cooling pipework, glowplugs, injectors, filetrs etc. The water leak was a mixture of a loose water pump and a worn metal cooling pipe that had rubbed itself thin against the chassis. The oil leak im not sure till i drop the engine and box and hae a look inside. Gona do the whole lot myself got the space and the time so why not learn and have the garage to help out a their a good bunch o lads.

Got the new tyres on and their really good lots of grip on the sludgy loose stuff, lost about 10mph but atleast i know their safe.

Ill update the thread when the work begins on the TD.

Thanks again guys.

boner