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Texaco MTF-94 & "Honda Genuine MTF"

Discussion in 'alt.fan.landrover' started by bolivar1001@yahoo.com, Oct 31, 2005.

  1. Hi
    Does anybody know if the "Honda Genuine MTF" is really the Texaco
    MTF-94 ?

    thanks
    Pat

     
  2. Huw

    Huw Guest


    <bolivar1001@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:1130778395.506228.326500@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
    > Hi
    > Does anybody know if the "Honda Genuine MTF" is really the Texaco
    > MTF-94 ?
    >


    They are to all intents and purpose Identical.

    Huw


     
  3. Huw
    how did you come to that conclusion?
    is that info available somewhere?

    the MTF-94 is hard to get while the "Honda Genuine MTF" is available
    I don't want to make a mistake using the Honda product in my R380 if
    they are not completely the same thing.
    Please let me know

    thanks
    Pat

     
  4. beamendsltd

    beamendsltd Guest

    In message <1130807813.295735.292270@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>
    bolivar1001@yahoo.com wrote:

    > Huw
    > how did you come to that conclusion?
    > is that info available somewhere?
    >
    > the MTF-94 is hard to get while the "Honda Genuine MTF" is available
    > I don't want to make a mistake using the Honda product in my R380 if
    > they are not completely the same thing.
    > Please let me know
    >
    > thanks
    > Pat
    >


    What about:

    MTFLOD5L Lodexol MTF GL4 Fully Synthetic 75w/80 Transmission Oil
    5L - Morris Oil £13.00

    Richard
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  5. Huw

    Huw Guest


    <bolivar1001@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:1130807813.295735.292270@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
    > Huw
    > how did you come to that conclusion?
    > is that info available somewhere?
    >
    > the MTF-94 is hard to get while the "Honda Genuine MTF" is available
    > I don't want to make a mistake using the Honda product in my R380 if
    > they are not completely the same thing.
    > Please let me know
    >


    Texaco were the manufacturers of original fill oil for British built Honda
    gearboxes fitted to MG/Rover/Austin cars from the early 80's. There is
    nothing new or mysterious about the oil.
    FWIW I have used MT type oil in my LT77 gearbox for over 15 years and long
    before LR decided it was a superior product. It still goes as well as ever
    after over 10,000 hours of intense use. I have never used the specific MTF
    [belatedly] recommended by LR but use MT oil specific for Ford MT75 [i think
    it's called] made by Morris oils so as far as I am concerned the brand is
    not important as long as it is reputable while the spec is most important
    but not life threatening as long as it is better than ATF, which LR
    recommended for many years and which provided little wear protection over
    the long term.

    Huw


     
  6. Huw

    Huw Guest


    "beamendsltd" <beamendsltd@btconnect.com> wrote in message
    news:5a20e6c24d%beamendsltd@btconnect.com...
    > In message <1130807813.295735.292270@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>
    > bolivar1001@yahoo.com wrote:
    >
    >> Huw
    >> how did you come to that conclusion?
    >> is that info available somewhere?
    >>
    >> the MTF-94 is hard to get while the "Honda Genuine MTF" is available
    >> I don't want to make a mistake using the Honda product in my R380 if
    >> they are not completely the same thing.
    >> Please let me know
    >>
    >> thanks
    >> Pat
    >>

    >
    > What about:
    >
    > MTFLOD5L Lodexol MTF GL4 Fully Synthetic 75w/80 Transmission Oil
    > 5L - Morris Oil £13.00
    >


    If I didn't have the MT75 stuff left to use in my workshop, that is what I
    would probably use. Either that or the Fuchs equivalent.

    Huw


     
  7. Steve Taylor

    Steve Taylor Guest

    Huw wrote:

    >>What about:
    >>
    >>MTFLOD5L Lodexol MTF GL4 Fully Synthetic 75w/80 Transmission Oil
    >> 5L - Morris Oil £13.00
    >>

    >
    >
    > If I didn't have the MT75 stuff left to use in my workshop, that is what I
    > would probably use. Either that or the Fuchs equivalent.
    >
    > Huw
    >
    >


    I'd second Huw on using Morris Lubes, if in doubt, you can always speak
    to the guys in Morris Oil technical support - they are experts.

    Steve
     
  8. beamendsltd

    beamendsltd Guest

    In message <43674241$0$355$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk>
    Steve Taylor <steve@thetaylorfamily.org.uk> wrote:

    > Huw wrote:
    >
    > >>What about:
    > >>
    > >>MTFLOD5L Lodexol MTF GL4 Fully Synthetic 75w/80 Transmission Oil
    > >> 5L - Morris Oil £13.00
    > >>

    > >
    > >
    > > If I didn't have the MT75 stuff left to use in my workshop, that is what I
    > > would probably use. Either that or the Fuchs equivalent.
    > >
    > > Huw
    > >
    > >

    >
    > I'd second Huw on using Morris Lubes, if in doubt, you can always speak
    > to the guys in Morris Oil technical support - they are experts.
    >
    > Steve


    Indeed - my 110 is just coming up to 250,000 whith no major mechanical
    failures (even the gearbox died due to a broken circlip rather than
    the usual - though at 210,000 it was going) - all on Morris Oils. 'Course
    the oils are change regularly (cough, cough)! I sell it because it's good,
    even though a most people outside the transport industry have never heard
    of them

    Richard
    --
    www.beamends-lrspares.co.uk sales@beamends-lrspares.co.uk
    Running a business in a Microsoft free environment - it can be done
    Powered by Risc-OS - you won't get a virus from us!!
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  9. Huw

    Huw Guest


    "beamendsltd" <beamendsltd@btconnect.com> wrote in message
    news:ce47f0c24d%beamendsltd@btconnect.com...
    > In message <43674241$0$355$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk>
    > Steve Taylor <steve@thetaylorfamily.org.uk> wrote:
    >
    >> Huw wrote:
    >>
    >> >>What about:
    >> >>
    >> >>MTFLOD5L Lodexol MTF GL4 Fully Synthetic 75w/80 Transmission Oil
    >> >> 5L - Morris Oil £13.00
    >> >>
    >> >
    >> >
    >> > If I didn't have the MT75 stuff left to use in my workshop, that is
    >> > what I
    >> > would probably use. Either that or the Fuchs equivalent.
    >> >
    >> > Huw
    >> >
    >> >

    >>
    >> I'd second Huw on using Morris Lubes, if in doubt, you can always speak
    >> to the guys in Morris Oil technical support - they are experts.
    >>
    >> Steve

    >
    > Indeed - my 110 is just coming up to 250,000 whith no major mechanical
    > failures (even the gearbox died due to a broken circlip rather than
    > the usual - though at 210,000 it was going) - all on Morris Oils. 'Course
    > the oils are change regularly (cough, cough)! I sell it because it's good,
    > even though a most people outside the transport industry have never heard
    > of them
    >


    My company [the company I work for LOL] was the first ever to arrange a tour
    around the Morris factory. It was an eye opener for many customers who came
    with us to see the quality control and to see oil being packed in cans for
    many reputable manufacturers in OE colours and brands apart from Morris
    cans.
    Like I said my 110 has passed an amazing 10,000 hours of work, which would
    be equivalent to 300,000 miles at 30mph. In fact it has done some 130,000
    miles of very short offroad journeys mainly fetching cows and pulling a vast
    cattle trailer. No work done on any major component apart from clutches and
    power steering. I do put the gearbox life down to using MTF type oil in the
    main box and thin oil in the transfer. The engine has always used long drain
    oil [SHPD] changed every 5000 miles for convenience.


    Huw


     
  10. Tom Woods

    Tom Woods Guest

    On Tue, 1 Nov 2005 08:45:26 +0000 (UTC), beamendsltd
    <beamendsltd@btconnect.com> wrote:

    >What about:
    >
    >MTFLOD5L Lodexol MTF GL4 Fully Synthetic 75w/80 Transmission Oil
    > 5L - Morris Oil £13.00


    Richard -

    Can you get the morris oil in 25L containers?, and do they work out as
    cheaper than buying multiple 5L's?
    and do you stock any different grades to the ones you list on your
    site? (my fleet of saabs drink 10/30 and it would be less hassle for
    me to buy in bulk!)

    I'm assuming that you just stick in a big order from morris every so
    often to keep yourself in stock? (and can therefore get different
    stuff if i'm prepared to wait until you order?)

    Ta,
    Tom


     
  11. beamendsltd

    beamendsltd Guest

    In message <7g2hm1hgjpu5esg7l3d4aqq4185ppffct9@4ax.com>
    Tom Woods <tomarse_@hotmail.com> wrote:

    > On Tue, 1 Nov 2005 08:45:26 +0000 (UTC), beamendsltd
    > <beamendsltd@btconnect.com> wrote:
    >
    > >What about:
    > >
    > >MTFLOD5L Lodexol MTF GL4 Fully Synthetic 75w/80 Transmission Oil
    > > 5L - Morris Oil £13.00

    >
    > Richard -
    >
    > Can you get the morris oil in 25L containers?, and do they work out as
    > cheaper than buying multiple 5L's?


    Certainly can - often quite a saving over 5L cans.


    > and do you stock any different grades to the ones you list on your
    > site? (my fleet of saabs drink 10/30 and it would be less hassle for
    > me to buy in bulk!)


    I think it's true to say I can get practically any oil from Morris
    (their range is *vast*). What spec 10/30 do you need? Sythetic, semi
    etc?

    >
    > I'm assuming that you just stick in a big order from morris every so
    > often to keep yourself in stock? (and can therefore get different
    > stuff if i'm prepared to wait until you order?)


    That's about the size of it - I can sometimes "borrow" stuff from
    another stockist for the more common oils to speed things up.

    Delivery can be a problem, the couriers want it paletised when in 25L
    cans, so it can get a bit pricey.

    >
    > Ta,
    > Tom
    >
    >


    Richard

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  12. Steve Taylor

    Steve Taylor Guest

    Tom Woods wrote:
    > On Tue, 1 Nov 2005 08:45:26 +0000 (UTC), beamendsltd
    > <beamendsltd@btconnect.com> wrote:
    >
    >
    >>What about:
    >>
    >>MTFLOD5L Lodexol MTF GL4 Fully Synthetic 75w/80 Transmission Oil
    >> 5L - Morris Oil £13.00

    >
    >
    > Richard -
    >
    > Can you get the morris oil in 25L containers?, and do they work out as
    > cheaper than buying multiple 5L's?


    Andy Brown at Morris says they can supply nearly everything in 25L
    containers.

    Steve
     
  13. Ohlins

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  14. mburton2

    mburton2 New Member

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    I'd be interested in say, 2 off 5l cans of MTF.....
    Is this possible?....what sort of P&P would it come ??