Texaco MTF-94 & "Honda Genuine MTF"

Hi
Does anybody know if the "Honda Genuine MTF" is really the Texaco
MTF-94 ?

thanks
Pat

<[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Hi
> Does anybody know if the "Honda Genuine MTF" is really the Texaco
> MTF-94 ?
>

They are to all intents and purpose Identical.

Huw

Huw
how did you come to that conclusion?
is that info available somewhere?

the MTF-94 is hard to get while the "Honda Genuine MTF" is available
I don't want to make a mistake using the Honda product in my R380 if
they are not completely the same thing.
Please let me know

thanks
Pat

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[email protected] wrote:

> Huw
> how did you come to that conclusion?
> is that info available somewhere?
>
> the MTF-94 is hard to get while the "Honda Genuine MTF" is available
> I don't want to make a mistake using the Honda product in my R380 if
> they are not completely the same thing.
> Please let me know
>
> thanks
> Pat
>

What about:

MTFLOD5L Lodexol MTF GL4 Fully Synthetic 75w/80 Transmission Oil
5L - Morris Oil £13.00

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<[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Huw
> how did you come to that conclusion?
> is that info available somewhere?
>
> the MTF-94 is hard to get while the "Honda Genuine MTF" is available
> I don't want to make a mistake using the Honda product in my R380 if
> they are not completely the same thing.
> Please let me know
>

Texaco were the manufacturers of original fill oil for British built Honda
gearboxes fitted to MG/Rover/Austin cars from the early 80's. There is
nothing new or mysterious about the oil.
FWIW I have used MT type oil in my LT77 gearbox for over 15 years and long
before LR decided it was a superior product. It still goes as well as ever
after over 10,000 hours of intense use. I have never used the specific MTF
[belatedly] recommended by LR but use MT oil specific for Ford MT75 [i think
it's called] made by Morris oils so as far as I am concerned the brand is
not important as long as it is reputable while the spec is most important
but not life threatening as long as it is better than ATF, which LR
recommended for many years and which provided little wear protection over
the long term.

Huw

"beamendsltd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> In message <[email protected]>
> [email protected] wrote:
>
>> Huw
>> how did you come to that conclusion?
>> is that info available somewhere?
>>
>> the MTF-94 is hard to get while the "Honda Genuine MTF" is available
>> I don't want to make a mistake using the Honda product in my R380 if
>> they are not completely the same thing.
>> Please let me know
>>
>> thanks
>> Pat
>>
>
> What about:
>
> MTFLOD5L Lodexol MTF GL4 Fully Synthetic 75w/80 Transmission Oil
> 5L - Morris Oil £13.00
>

If I didn't have the MT75 stuff left to use in my workshop, that is what I
would probably use. Either that or the Fuchs equivalent.

Huw

Huw wrote:

>>What about:
>>
>>MTFLOD5L Lodexol MTF GL4 Fully Synthetic 75w/80 Transmission Oil
>> 5L - Morris Oil £13.00
>>
>
>
> If I didn't have the MT75 stuff left to use in my workshop, that is what I
> would probably use. Either that or the Fuchs equivalent.
>
> Huw
>
>

I'd second Huw on using Morris Lubes, if in doubt, you can always speak
to the guys in Morris Oil technical support - they are experts.

Steve

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Steve Taylor <[email protected]> wrote:

> Huw wrote:
>
> >>What about:
> >>
> >>MTFLOD5L Lodexol MTF GL4 Fully Synthetic 75w/80 Transmission Oil
> >> 5L - Morris Oil £13.00
> >>
> >
> >
> > If I didn't have the MT75 stuff left to use in my workshop, that is what I
> > would probably use. Either that or the Fuchs equivalent.
> >
> > Huw
> >
> >
>
> I'd second Huw on using Morris Lubes, if in doubt, you can always speak
> to the guys in Morris Oil technical support - they are experts.
>
> Steve

Indeed - my 110 is just coming up to 250,000 whith no major mechanical
failures (even the gearbox died due to a broken circlip rather than
the usual - though at 210,000 it was going) - all on Morris Oils. 'Course
the oils are change regularly (cough, cough)! I sell it because it's good,
even though a most people outside the transport industry have never heard
of them

Richard
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"beamendsltd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> In message <[email protected]>
> Steve Taylor <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Huw wrote:
>>
>> >>What about:
>> >>
>> >>MTFLOD5L Lodexol MTF GL4 Fully Synthetic 75w/80 Transmission Oil
>> >> 5L - Morris Oil £13.00
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> > If I didn't have the MT75 stuff left to use in my workshop, that is
>> > what I
>> > would probably use. Either that or the Fuchs equivalent.
>> >
>> > Huw
>> >
>> >
>>
>> I'd second Huw on using Morris Lubes, if in doubt, you can always speak
>> to the guys in Morris Oil technical support - they are experts.
>>
>> Steve
>
> Indeed - my 110 is just coming up to 250,000 whith no major mechanical
> failures (even the gearbox died due to a broken circlip rather than
> the usual - though at 210,000 it was going) - all on Morris Oils. 'Course
> the oils are change regularly (cough, cough)! I sell it because it's good,
> even though a most people outside the transport industry have never heard
> of them
>

My company [the company I work for LOL] was the first ever to arrange a tour
around the Morris factory. It was an eye opener for many customers who came
with us to see the quality control and to see oil being packed in cans for
many reputable manufacturers in OE colours and brands apart from Morris
cans.
Like I said my 110 has passed an amazing 10,000 hours of work, which would
be equivalent to 300,000 miles at 30mph. In fact it has done some 130,000
miles of very short offroad journeys mainly fetching cows and pulling a vast
cattle trailer. No work done on any major component apart from clutches and
power steering. I do put the gearbox life down to using MTF type oil in the
main box and thin oil in the transfer. The engine has always used long drain
oil [SHPD] changed every 5000 miles for convenience.


Huw

On Tue, 1 Nov 2005 08:45:26 +0000 (UTC), beamendsltd
<[email protected]> wrote:

>What about:
>
>MTFLOD5L Lodexol MTF GL4 Fully Synthetic 75w/80 Transmission Oil
> 5L - Morris Oil £13.00

Richard -

Can you get the morris oil in 25L containers?, and do they work out as
cheaper than buying multiple 5L's?
and do you stock any different grades to the ones you list on your
site? (my fleet of saabs drink 10/30 and it would be less hassle for
me to buy in bulk!)

I'm assuming that you just stick in a big order from morris every so
often to keep yourself in stock? (and can therefore get different
stuff if i'm prepared to wait until you order?)

Ta,
Tom

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Tom Woods <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Tue, 1 Nov 2005 08:45:26 +0000 (UTC), beamendsltd
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >What about:
> >
> >MTFLOD5L Lodexol MTF GL4 Fully Synthetic 75w/80 Transmission Oil
> > 5L - Morris Oil £13.00
>
> Richard -
>
> Can you get the morris oil in 25L containers?, and do they work out as
> cheaper than buying multiple 5L's?

Certainly can - often quite a saving over 5L cans.


> and do you stock any different grades to the ones you list on your
> site? (my fleet of saabs drink 10/30 and it would be less hassle for
> me to buy in bulk!)

I think it's true to say I can get practically any oil from Morris
(their range is *vast*). What spec 10/30 do you need? Sythetic, semi
etc?

>
> I'm assuming that you just stick in a big order from morris every so
> often to keep yourself in stock? (and can therefore get different
> stuff if i'm prepared to wait until you order?)

That's about the size of it - I can sometimes "borrow" stuff from
another stockist for the more common oils to speed things up.

Delivery can be a problem, the couriers want it paletised when in 25L
cans, so it can get a bit pricey.

>
> Ta,
> Tom
>
>

Richard

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Tom Woods wrote:
> On Tue, 1 Nov 2005 08:45:26 +0000 (UTC), beamendsltd
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>What about:
>>
>>MTFLOD5L Lodexol MTF GL4 Fully Synthetic 75w/80 Transmission Oil
>> 5L - Morris Oil £13.00
>
>
> Richard -
>
> Can you get the morris oil in 25L containers?, and do they work out as
> cheaper than buying multiple 5L's?

Andy Brown at Morris says they can supply nearly everything in 25L
containers.

Steve

Can you guys post to France,or is it toooooooooo expensive a question

I'd be interested in say, 2 off 5l cans of MTF.....
Is this possible?....what sort of P&P would it come ??