TD4 Prop Shaft mount

Hi all.

I've just spoken with my local Land Rover garage who've quoted £635 to get have prop shaft mount repaired. Any thoughts? I wasn't expecting such a figure but maybe that's what these things cost?

Thanks in advance!

Cheers

Jimbo7777 said:

Hi all.

I've just spoken with my local Land Rover garage who've quoted £635 to get have prop shaft mount repaired. Any thoughts? I wasn't expecting such a figure but maybe that's what these things cost?

Thanks in advance!

Cheers

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What needs reparing? What are the symptoms? I don't know what they are quoting for as a propshaft mount does make much sense.
They could be referring to the VCU support bearings, which are between both propshafts (there are two, front to back). Genuine LR bearings are about £70 each, plus an hour to fit them. But clear and concise information on that actually parts needed or the problems you are having are needed.

Hi Nodge!

The garage is telling me the 'prop shaft mount'. The symptoms are loud knocking from the front of the car especially when turning.

Thoughts?

Cheers

Jimbo7777 said:

Hi Nodge!

The garage is telling me the 'prop shaft mount'. The symptoms are loud knocking from the front of the car especially when turning.

Thoughts?

Cheers

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Find another garage that knows what a Freelander is and how the AWD system works, would be a good start.
However your description of banging when turning is sounding very much like the IRD has begun to fail. Has the vehicle been driven with an odd mix of tyres, possibly with new tyres put on the front?

do the one wheel up test and report back. try not to drive it until you have.

Nodge68 said:

Find another garage that knows what a Freelander is and how the AWD system works, would be a good start.
However your description of banging when turning is sounding very much like the IRD has begun to fail. Has the vehicle been driven with an odd mix of tyres, possibly with new tyres put on the front?

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If its just mounts - they are ripping you off. From the sounds of it though its more serious and they are not charging you enough as the parts would be more expensive - so if that's the case, they don't know what they're doing. I'd suggest removing the props & VCU - its 6 bolts at the front, 4 at the back and 4 in the middle - all easily accessible if you can raise the car up a little - see if that stops the noise. Before doing that though I'd do a 1 wheel up test to see if the VCU is shot.

https://www.landyzone.co.uk/land-rover/tests-new-freelander-owners-should-do-on-their-car.312863/

Nodge68 said:

Find another garage that knows what a Freelander is and how the AWD system works, would be a good start.
However your description of banging when turning is sounding very much like the IRD has begun to fail. Has the vehicle been driven with an odd mix of tyres, possibly with new tyres put on the front?

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Thanks. The tyres all look are all uniform. I asked them if they were replacing the whole prop shaft and was told the prop shaft mount. Annoying I'm dealing with their reception over the phone rather and the mechanic.

The Mad Hat Man said:

do the one wheel up test and report back. try not to drive it until you have.

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This ^^^^

GrumpyGel said:

+1

If its just mounts - they are ripping you off. From the sounds of it though its more serious and they are not charging you enough as the parts would be more expensive - so if that's the case, they don't know what they're doing. I'd suggest removing the props & VCU - its 6 bolts at the front, 4 at the back and 4 in the middle - all easily accessible if you can raise the car up a little - see if that stops the noise. Before doing that though I'd do a 1 wheel up test to see if the VCU is shot.

https://www.landyzone.co.uk/land-rover/tests-new-freelander-owners-should-do-on-their-car.312863/

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And this ^^^^

GrumpyGel said:

+1

If its just mounts - they are ripping you off. From the sounds of it though its more serious and they are not charging you enough as the parts would be more expensive - so if that's the case, they don't know what they're doing. I'd suggest removing the props & VCU - its 6 bolts at the front, 4 at the back and 4 in the middle - all easily accessible if you can raise the car up a little - see if that stops the noise. Before doing that though I'd do a 1 wheel up test to see if the VCU is shot.

https://www.landyzone.co.uk/land-rover/tests-new-freelander-owners-should-do-on-their-car.312863/

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Thanks Grumpy!

I was going to order the mounts myself and get someone local to fit them but I wasn't certain what the mounts were. Are they the same as the bearings?

http://www.land-rover-parts-shop.co...pshafts&subcattext=Viscous Coupling&year=2002

Jimbo7777 said:

Thanks Grumpy!

I was going to order the mounts myself and get someone local to fit them but I wasn't certain what the mounts were. Are they the same as the bearings?

http://www.land-rover-parts-shop.com/en/ui/groups.php?model=Freelander 1&engine=Td4 2.0 Diesel&cattext=Propshafts&subcattext=Viscous Coupling&year=2002

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First rule of fixing a fault is to determine what the fault actually is. Do that before spending your money. DO NOT drive it unless you want a prospective £2K bill..

Jimbo7777 said:

Thanks. The tyres all look are all uniform. I asked them if they were replacing the whole prop shaft and was told the prop shaft mount. Annoying I'm dealing with their reception over the phone rather and the mechanic.

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What you are being told makes no sense, when your symptoms are being taken into account.

A Freelander MUST have 4 identical tyres, same make, type and size with the least worn on the back. If it's used with a mishmash of odd tyres, the AWD system is damaged. This will result in a repair cost many times the amount you have been quoted.
So you need to do the one wheel up test so an idea of the condition of the VCU can be gauged. Then remove the propshafts completely until a proper diagnosis can be obtained, from a garage that knows what they are talking about.

The Mad Hat Man said:

First rule of fixing a fault is to determine what the fault actually is. Do that before spending your money. DO NOT drive.

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Thanks Mad Hat Man! And very true. I have to get it recovered if definitely didn't sound safe to drive. Annoying though it's at the garage and I'm probably going to have to fork out the £635 to get it fixed so I can get it home.

Nodge68 said:

What you are being told makes no sense, when your symptoms are being taken into account.

A Freelander MUST have 4 identical tyres, same make, type and size with the least worn on the back. If it's used with a mishmash of odd tyres, the AWD system is damaged. This will result in a repair cost many times the amount you have been quoted.
So you need to do the one wheel up test so an idea of the condition of the VCU can be gauged. Then remove the propshafts completely until a proper diagnosis can be obtained, from a garage that knows what they are talking about.

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Cheers. Any suggestions on a garage? I'm in London

Jimbo7777 said:

Thanks Mad Hat Man! And very true. I have to get it recovered if definitely didn't sound safe to drive. Annoying though it's at the garage and I'm probably going to have to fork out the £635 to get it fixed so I can get it home.

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If it's what I think the problem is, spending £635 isn't going to fix it so you still won't be able to drive it.

get it trailered home = that will be cheaper.

Jimbo7777 said:

Cheers. Any suggestions on a garage? I'm in London

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No idea of a decent LR, specifically a Freelander specialist in London. Thankfully I live 250 miles away from that place.
You may be able to find a helpful forum member up that way, who could diagnose your problem for you.

unfortunately Lunnun is a big place - you might need to be a tad more specific... N, S, E, W?

E1

The Mad Hat Man said:

unfortunately Lunnun is a big place - you might need to be a tad more specific... N, S, E, W?

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I'm in East London E1

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Lets see if any of them can help