Some simple advice please, save me reading the handbook later.

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BIG MATT

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TD5 2001, It was -4 this morning and I had trouble starting the old girl.

Thing is I fitted a new battery at the weekend so it was firing up like mad, it initially fired up chugged for 20 secs then died, after retrying for 2mins it just seems to keep turning over but not firing up.

Am i correct in thinking on really cold mornings I should start it with my foot hard down on the accelerater pedal?

In the end i left it 4 mins went back and it eventually started with plumes of smoke coming from out the back (unburnt diesel i think).

Any help much appreciated.

Merry christmas one and all.

Matt
 
Thanks for prompt reply, heater plugs replaced last year so they should be OK, dont these last for a good 20K miles or more?
 
dunno about your heater plugs, but yes I seem to remember reading in the manual that for COLD starts you should hold the accelerator pedal down to the floor - but that was in my manual (300tdi) not sure about td5
 
Well every diesel I've ever had the rule was no throttle till it started. as the coldstart valve on the IP dumps extra fuel into the injun anyway. But I only has older diesels, so ya noo fangled thingies mite be different.
 
trax99 is right ... handbook says on very cold mornings floor the throttle when starting but release as soon as it fires up!

For years I haven't done this, like Redhand says, and used no throttle. Since adopting the handbook method it does seem to work more reliably and quickly .. ;)
 
Cheers all !!

As always a resolve from an undieing source of information, long may it continue !!

From now on if its freezing cold I will be using me foot and me key together.

Have a good one !!
 
Just been reading my handbook.

It says DO NOT press the throttle when starting.

Then it says that if it's -5 deg or colder, fully depress the pedal, and release as soon as it fires.


Mine started perfectly at -8 last week no throttle at all, then tonight at +2 I had to have 2 goes at it......so who knows ?? ;)
 
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Then it says that if it's -5 deg or colder, fully depress the pedal, and release as soon as it fires.
Mine has always fired first time so far.:eek:
If you do depress the pedal it's really important to release immediately. If you allow the engine to rev without building up oil pressure you risk damage to the turbo bearings. Applies to any turbo engine.
May be stating the obvious, but always turn off things like radio, heater fan and lights before you turn off the engine - just gives the battery that little bit more oomph next morning.
 
Matt, the manual for my DII 2001 TD5 says don't use the accelerator at all and it always seems to start straight away (I wait for the glow plug light to go out when it's cold).

STARTING - Diesel models

1. Check that the handbrake is applied and that the gear lever is in neutral (‘P’ or ‘N’ for automatic transmission).

2. Switch off all unnecessary electrical equipment.

3. Insert the starter key and turn the switch to position ‘II’. Wait until the glow plug warning light extinguishes.
NOTE: The waiting time will vary according to the engine coolant temperature (when the engine is hot, the glow plug warning light will extinguish almost immediately).

4. Turn the key to position ‘III’ to operate the starter motor. DO NOT press the accelerator pedal while starting.
RELEASE THE KEY as soon as the engine is running.
If the engine stalls or fails to start, you MUST return the starter switch to position ‘I’ before attempting to restart; the engine will not start by turning the starter switch from position ‘II’.

In temperate climates DO NOT operate the starter for longer than 10 seconds. If the engine fails to start, switch off and wait 10 seconds before re-using the starter.

NOTE: Continued use of the starter will not only discharge the battery, but may cause damage to the starter motor.

Cold climates
In very cold climates the oil pressure warning light may take several seconds to extinguish.
Similarly, engine cranking times will also increase; at -22°F (-30°C) the starter motor may need to be operated continuously for as long as 30 seconds before the engine will start. For this reason, ensure that all non-essential electrical equipment is switched off.

Automatic gearbox vehicles
After starting, ensure that the handbrake and foot brake are firmly applied and the accelerator pedal is not depressed while moving the gear selector lever from ‘N’ or ‘P’, otherwise, the vehicle may move immediately the selector lever is moved to one of the drive positions (1,2,3,D or R). This is particularly important when the engine is cold, because the engine will be idling at a faster speed than normal.

HTH
 
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