scarey handling

my land rover wants to kill me. it all seems ok underneath so i can only assume its the tyres. im running a nearly new (90% good) set of deestone extra grips. and my land rover just literaly slides off the road at silly low speeds. eg roundabout at 10-15mph i get serious oversteer and its a job to keep it in the forward direction. has anyone else had this problem with these tyres or am i just being gay and should practise my rally driving skills.
cheers, tom

av u got ur diffs locked all the time ?

wot land rover have yu got? - it mite help.

ok which one?

90td
Range Rover 3.5efi
1971 s3 swb
1974 s3 lwb
90 3.9v8 auto (project)

7.50r16's always do that (have had them fitted to loads of Landys that i have driven), not much tread contact but what there is designed for maximum grip in mud not tarmac, also the rubber is very hard and does not "move" to find grip. Might find that the max speed rating is only 56mph, there is a reason for that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Just a thorght have you got the tyer pressures right and not too high.

Yeah, which of yer Landies, what tyres & what're you running them at?

Seems those tyres are not renound for road grip. From other forums:

Deestones Extra Grip are crossply tyres based on the old Goodyear Xtra Hi Miler pattern as fitted to X Miltary S3 SWB and LWB LR's.They are well known for not having huge amounts of on road wet weather grip but reasonable off road.

I had Deestones, they're a copy of an old Goodyear tread pattern (Goodyear Hi Miler?), great off road in mud clearing themselves very well but shocking on a wet road even at quite low speeds. I couldn't live with the poor road manners, sharp braking in the wet was like sledging. Not fun in traffic.

I fitted a full set to my series two, after about six miles, I replaced the fronts with a less agressive pattern, they were nearly undriveable at over fourty/fifty mph.
Great off road though.

Deestone bought the Goodyear moulds but use a much harder in theory, longer lasting rubber that used in countries where it doesn't rain, hence when it rains you have no grip.

well researched marcus...

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stig said:

7.50r16's always do that (have had them fitted to loads of Landys that i have driven), not much tread contact but what there is designed for maximum grip in mud not tarmac, also the rubber is very hard and does not "move" to find grip. Might find that the max speed rating is only 56mph, there is a reason for that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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That might be true for some 750s but the Bridgestone Duelers I have on my 110 certainly doesn’t fit your very generalized comment.

seanmoore2006 said:

That might be true for some 750s but the Bridgestone Duelers I have on my 110 certainly doesn’t fit your very generalized comment.

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Got a set of Goodyear Wrangler 7.5 16c and they are fine all round in the Dry and wet, Off and On road.

clivees said:

Got a set of Goodyear Wrangler 7.5 16c and they are fine all round in the Dry and wet, Off and On road.

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Yep i've had them on a while back and found them excellent in most conditions on and off road, am also a big fan of Avon Rangemasters but they are like rocking horse droppings to get hold of these days.

Everyone seems to think the orginal posters issues is down to tyres, you'd get a smillar affect if he went round corners on tarmac with the diffs locked (or do we have very sticky tarmac ere)

hello, im back! i really need to edit my profile, i think i only have 1 of those landys left. anyway they are on a 90td and i did the tyre pressure only that morning. idrove it this morning in the dry and although they ar't half as bad they don't offer me much confidence when cornering. its more the back end drifting round and trying to overtake the front end that puts me off rather than the understeer. however, if i take it relitivly sensibly it is managable but i think a set of colways would probably suit me better.
cheers, tom

That sounds like normal land rover handling, how fast are you trying to go round corners?

seanmoore2006 said:

That sounds like normal land rover handling, how fast are you trying to go round corners?

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what are you on about? Try reading the posts he's already said it does it at speeds as low as 10/15mph I had a 84 110 with 7.50R16 Avon roadmasters on and The landy handled fine I drove it from Torquay to Hull and apart from tramlining in the lorry tracks on the motorway the handling was fine No landies don't handle well at highspeeds on bends/roundabouts. but at 10/15mph they do. If they don't then there's a problem either with the vehicle or more likely with the tyres.

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what are you on about?

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Feel free to carry on disagreeing with everything I say on here, as you have posted far more often than I have you obviously know much more about this topic than I do.

stedy lads this is supposed to be fun not a competiton about posts anyway, i had a 90n/a up untill a few months ago and that was on 7.50 michelins, xcl i think, you know the ones that are on the military wolf landys, anyway that thing you could really throw it about and it never eaven squeled let alone spin me round in the road! maybe its the differences in tyre quality and price but at the moment i cant affoerd a new set of miche,s so ill grin and bear it with the deestones. and go very very slowly

ave seen folk try to go orf road with there 7.50's inflated high enough to get rid of road noise. ****ed the whole day fer the lot of us as he slid down a baby slope and got wedged inbetween two trees.
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aye you know who you are!!!

seanmoore2006 said:

Feel free to carry on disagreeing with everything I say on here, as you have posted far more often than I have you obviously know much more about this topic than I do.

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I only disagree with people who spout unsupportable "facts"!! and generalisations. if your gonna post in reply to someones request for help. Telling em "all landies do that" doesn't help anyone and just makes you look like an idiot.

i'm with the pikey on this one, you do tend to talk a load of cock sean moore