Rope

Can people give recommendations and links to what the best rope is to use for recovery. It will be for a series 3 so ideally it is in keeping with the look of the car as well being practical.

Do you mean winching ? In which case Plasma rope is the best....Second best would be steel wire......

To keep with the look perhaps something like this



But I wouldn't recommend recovering with it.

If you don't mean winching you are into STROPS territory....



which is a whole new minefield but easier to get a pretty color to match your Series.. You could also have them embroidered with your name.

A kinetic energy rope (KERR) is the way to go. Just make sure it’s of suitable tow rating. Then pick your length.

If it’s for off road use then a longer rope can be handy.

Loads to choose from. Have a look on eBay or any 4x4 outfitters.

Make sure you have good recovery points. They should be solid with spreader plates and high tensile bolts.

Look after the rope too. Don’t leave it out in the elements or have it tied round the bumper like some trophy (looks rather naff too IMO).

Strops shouldn’t be used for recovery really. And normal nylon or hessian ropes have very little give and can be brutal to recovery points with high shock loads. Kinetic ropes are much kinder in this regard.

If it’s for towing on road, consider a towing bar.

300bhp/ton said:

A kinetic energy rope (KERR) is the way to go. Just make sure it’s of suitable tow rating. Then pick your length.

If it’s for off road use then a longer rope can be handy.

Loads to choose from. Have a look on eBay or any 4x4 outfitters.

Make sure you have good recovery points. They should be solid with spreader plates and high tensile bolts.

Look after the rope too. Don’t leave it out in the elements or have it tied round the bumper like some trophy (looks rather naff too IMO).

Strops shouldn’t be used for recovery really. And normal nylon or hessian ropes have very little give and can be brutal to recovery points with high shock loads. Kinetic ropes are much kinder in this regard.

If it’s for towing on road, consider a towing bar.

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Kinetic ropes have their place............. but its a bull****/scary/bollocks/idiot statement to say they are the #1 ..........They are VERY dangerous in an amateurs hands.... its like saying you can dig a hole with a scalpel.

https://www.landyzone.co.uk/land-rover/kinetic-ropes-worth-there-money.194904/

ER1C said:

Kinetic ropes have their place............. but its a bull****/scary/bollocks/idiot statement to say they are the #1 ..........They are VERY dangerous in an amateurs hands.... its like saying you can dig a hole with a scalpel.

https://www.landyzone.co.uk/land-rover/kinetic-ropes-worth-there-money.194904/

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Nope. This is a total misunderstanding of what is going on. Any dangers that exist with kinetic ropes exist with regular ropes too. And arguably as a normal rope is far more brutal to recovery points, with higher shock loadings, then you are more likely to have accidents with those over a kinetic rope.

To caveat this. The nature of an accident will vary on what people are doing e.g.

If you are performing a snatch recovery. Then a regular rope can propel a failed recovery point with more than enough force to be highly dangerous. A KERR adds only minimal additional risk and actually reduces the risk of recovery points failing. Due to the lower shock loading with a KERR.


If you are loading the rope. Ie not a snatch recovery put Pulling a static object with plenty of traction on the tow vehicle. Such as a lorry on dry tarmac. Then yes the kinetic rope can Store more energy and should the recovery point fail at this point, it could be more hazardous. But for Land Rover recovery this is a less likely situation being as off road the conditions are usually slippery. If the rope itself fails then a KERR might flop about a bit more. But generally should present no greater risk assuming you haven’t tied D shackles or similar to it.

Basically you need different items for different situations, strops are great for anchoring to a tree to allow pull from a winch and also for general towing. A kinetic is an elelastic rope not used for general towing but as a recovery aid, in some situations it’s the only method of recovery but can be brutal on recovery points. Don’t make the mistake of going to Halfords and getting there 2 tow rope. Also you need a selection of shackles for connecting said rope to the vehicle

johnlad said:

Basically you need different items for different situations, strops are great for anchoring to a tree to allow pull from a winch and also for general towing. A kinetic is an elelastic rope not used for general towing but as a recovery aid, in some situations it’s the only method of recovery but can be brutal on recovery points. Don’t make the mistake of going to Halfords and getting there 2 tow rope. Also you need a selection of shackles for connecting said rope to the vehicle

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Kinetic ropes work brilliantly for towing. Again because they are NOT brutal on recovery points. They remove the snatches and jerks that occur when towing and remove all the shock loading on the recovery points. Towing with a strop on the other hand is hugely brutal to recovery points. As well as unpleasant for occupants of both vehicles.

300bhp/ton said:

Kinetic ropes work brilliantly for towing. Again because they are NOT brutal on recovery points. They remove the snatches and jerks that occur when towing and remove all the shock loading on the recovery points. Towing with a strop on the other hand is hugely brutal to recovery points. As well as unpleasant for occupants of both vehicles.

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kinetic rope was never designed for general towing

i use a heavy chain and i have an old steel cable which is plastic coated, i have pulled a few cars and so on with it.
i dont like snatch straps as you drive off and then it takes up slack and can rip stuff off.

just use old chain or cable and keep it in an old canvas bag so it dont make noise and scratch the hell out of your floor.

i want to get hold of some tug or small ship anchor chain as it has extra strength with cross piece of steel between the links

ship chain



Tony.

kommer2013 said:

i use a heavy chain and i have an old steel cable which is plastic coated, i have pulled a few cars and so on with it.
i dont like snatch straps as you drive off and then it takes up slack and can rip stuff off.

just use old chain or cable and keep it in an old canvas bag so it dont make noise and scratch the hell out of your floor.

Tony.

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I learnt a neat one the other day, pop the steel cable in an old spare tyre...