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I'm wondering whether I actually need something like the Optima
Yelloptops in Grumble - as they're only used for the ancillary
equipment like fridge, interior lighting, water pump and stereo.

optimas are expensive (circa 150 odd quid) and only have a capacity of
55Ah. I've been trying to find something with at least twice that
capacity, and also sealed, leak-proof and need very little venting
(they go inside the truck, you see).

Found these:

http://www.batmanuk.com/leisure.htm

Does anyone have any experience of them? They seem reasonably well
priced - and free delivery (alright, included in the price, ex VAT).

Or suggest similar?

 
Mother" <"@ {mother} @ wrote:
> I'm wondering whether I actually need something like the Optima
> Yelloptops in Grumble - as they're only used for the ancillary
> equipment like fridge, interior lighting, water pump and stereo.
>
> optimas are expensive (circa 150 odd quid) and only have a capacity of
> 55Ah. I've been trying to find something with at least twice that
> capacity, and also sealed, leak-proof and need very little venting
> (they go inside the truck, you see).
>
> Found these:
>
> http://www.batmanuk.com/leisure.htm
>
> Does anyone have any experience of them? They seem reasonably well
> priced - and free delivery (alright, included in the price, ex VAT).
>
> Or suggest similar?

The batteries I would suggest are the ones you find in electric wheel
chairs.
I built our kids a couple of electric cars (its OK one was a Landrover) and
I have over the years tried lots of different batteries. Car batteries were
useless, they lasted about an hour and wore out quick. Normal deep cycle
leisure batteries were not much better, but the wheelchair ones have been
very good, got about 3 or 4 hours driving and they have lasted for a couple
of years. They also worked out cheaper as I just went to the local
wheelchair shop and got some second hand batteries ( it would seem that a
lot of their customers are old and die before they get to use the equipment
too much) cost me a tenner each.
So for powering the stuff you are talking about I would suggest them. They
are totally sealed, you can use them upsidedown if you want. They use the
same chargers as normal 12v batteries.

hope this makes sence, I'm ****ed as a fart!

Nigel
--
nigel@leginDOTorg
1979 Lightweight


 
>
>optimas are expensive (circa 150 odd quid) and only have a capacity of
>55Ah. I've been trying to find something with at least twice that
>capacity, and also sealed, leak-proof and need very little venting
>(they go inside the truck, you see).
>
>Or suggest similar?

TBR UK do the Odyssey PC1700 or PC2100 (depending on available space
in the vehicle). They arent cheap (yellow top prices) however, they
are dual purpose, have big CCA and also quite large Ah (cant remember
from memory)...

I replaced my starter battery (bog standard Halfods jobby) and
replaced with the PC1700 so that I could run fridge, stereo, laptops,
tent lights etc etc.

I must say I was a bit sceptical at first about having just 1 battery
but it works very well. I have had several bank holiday weekends away
now (camping) and never got anywhere near not being able to start the
Tdi.

A much cheaper solution than 2 bateries and proper split charge...
That said, 2 batteries are a must if you venture away from
civilisation!

Hope this helps.
Jon
 
On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 06:56:44 +0000 (UTC), Jon <[email protected]>
wrote:

>A much cheaper solution than 2 bateries and proper split charge...
>That said, 2 batteries are a must if you venture away from
>civilisation!

My use is slightly more heavy duty - and I currently have three
batteries, a red top for starting _only_, then two yellowtops to run
ancilary stuff. The split charge relay is already en situ.

 
On Tue, 30 Aug 2005 22:06:22 +0100, "Nigel" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>The batteries I would suggest are the ones you find in electric wheel
>chairs.

Sounds like it's worth checking.

>hope this makes sence, I'm ****ed as a fart!

Super! The best ideas always start that way, like the 'unofficial' in
October - a few drinks at Eastnor...

 
>Found these:
>
>http://www.batmanuk.com/leisure.htm
>
>Does anyone have any experience of them? They seem reasonably well
>priced - and free delivery (alright, included in the price, ex VAT).

Looks like these are sealed Lead Acid type batteries, which may or may
not be acceptable. I personally like the GEL ones as I believe the
internal construction of them allows them to be smaller for a given
power rating. This is quite important in a Defender.

The GEL batteries are back to the price of the optimas. Size of the
"GEL140" may also be a little restricting.

I would also be interested to hear in others experiences of them.
 
On or around Wed, 31 Aug 2005 09:07:32 +0100, Mother <"@ {mother}
@"@101fc.net> enlightened us thusly:

>On Tue, 30 Aug 2005 22:06:22 +0100, "Nigel" <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>>The batteries I would suggest are the ones you find in electric wheel
>>chairs.
>
>Sounds like it's worth checking.
>
>>hope this makes sence, I'm ****ed as a fart!
>
>Super! The best ideas always start that way, like the 'unofficial' in
>October - a few drinks at Eastnor...

not to mention a similar scenario resulting in David taking the 6x6 round
that obstacle course...
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
"Would to God that we might spend a single day really well!"
Thomas À Kempis (1380 - 1471) Imitation of Christ, I.xxiii.
 
On or around Wed, 31 Aug 2005 09:06:20 +0100, Mother <"@ {mother}
@"@101fc.net> enlightened us thusly:

>On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 06:56:44 +0000 (UTC), Jon <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>>A much cheaper solution than 2 bateries and proper split charge...
>>That said, 2 batteries are a must if you venture away from
>>civilisation!
>
>My use is slightly more heavy duty - and I currently have three
>batteries, a red top for starting _only_, then two yellowtops to run
>ancilary stuff. The split charge relay is already en situ.

sounds like the TBR lot are worth a look. Although I reckon you've been
unlucky with the yellow-top Optima, with a bit of luck, they'll replace it.
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
"My centre is giving way, my right is in retreat; situation excellent.
I shall attack. - Marshal Foch (1851 - 1929)
 
On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 09:26:34 +0100, Austin Shackles
<[email protected]> scribbled the following nonsense:

>On or around Wed, 31 Aug 2005 09:07:32 +0100, Mother <"@ {mother}
>@"@101fc.net> enlightened us thusly:
>
>>On Tue, 30 Aug 2005 22:06:22 +0100, "Nigel" <[email protected]>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>The batteries I would suggest are the ones you find in electric wheel
>>>chairs.
>>
>>Sounds like it's worth checking.
>>
>>>hope this makes sence, I'm ****ed as a fart!
>>
>>Super! The best ideas always start that way, like the 'unofficial' in
>>October - a few drinks at Eastnor...
>
>not to mention a similar scenario resulting in David taking the 6x6 round
>that obstacle course...

and me somehow ending up hanging onto the gutter of Edward to prevent
me toppling out! I still can't believe they forgot to put eggs in
some of the baskets....
--

Simon Isaacs

Peterborough 4x4 Club Newsletter Editor and Webmaster
Green Lane Association (GLASS) Commercial Officer
Part owner of 1976 S3 LWT, Fully restored, ready for sale! Make me an offer!
Suzuki SJ410 (Fiancée's) 3" lift kit fitted, body shell now restored and mounted on chassis, waiting on a windscreen and MOT
Series 3 88" Rolling chassis...what to do next
1993 200 TDi Discovery
1994 200 TDi Discovery body sheel, being bobbed and modded.....
1979 Range Ruster body shell and chassis
 
On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 19:34:15 +0000 (UTC), Simon Isaacs
<[email protected]> wrote:

>>not to mention a similar scenario resulting in David taking the 6x6 round
>>that obstacle course...
>
>and me somehow ending up hanging onto the gutter of Edward to prevent
>me toppling out! I still can't believe they forgot to put eggs in
>some of the baskets....


Hanging in thin air - must've been the fumes from the previous nights
alcohol!

By the way, your .sig is bust - especially the bit wot ses...

>Suzuki SJ410 (Fiancée's) 3" lift kit fitted, body shell now restored and mounted on chassis, waiting on a windscreen and MOT

Bet the missus won't like you havin a Fiancée ;-)

 
On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 20:42:37 +0100, Mother <"@ {mother} @"@101fc.net>
scribbled the following nonsense:

>On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 19:34:15 +0000 (UTC), Simon Isaacs
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>>not to mention a similar scenario resulting in David taking the 6x6 round
>>>that obstacle course...
>>
>>and me somehow ending up hanging onto the gutter of Edward to prevent
>>me toppling out! I still can't believe they forgot to put eggs in
>>some of the baskets....
>
>
>Hanging in thin air - must've been the fumes from the previous nights
>alcohol!
>
>By the way, your .sig is bust - especially the bit wot ses...
>
>>Suzuki SJ410 (Fiancée's) 3" lift kit fitted, body shell now restored and mounted on chassis, waiting on a windscreen and MOT
>
>Bet the missus won't like you havin a Fiancée ;-)

and I have no steak left to take the bruising and swelling down from
my black eyes.

Shuould be fixed now.
--

Simon Isaacs

Peterborough 4x4 Club Newsletter Editor and Webmaster
Green Lane Association (GLASS) Commercial Officer
Part owner of 1976 S3 LWT, Fully restored, ready for sale! Make me an offer!
Suzuki SJ410 (Wife's) 3" lift kit fitted, body shell now restored and mounted on chassis, waiting on a windscreen and MOT
Series 3 88" Rolling chassis...what to do next
1993 200 TDi Discovery
1994 200 TDi Discovery body sheel, being bobbed and modded.....
1979 Range Ruster body shell and chassis
 
Simon Isaacs wrote:

> and I have no steak left to take the bruising and swelling down from
> my black eyes.

Wait till she finds out about the October do then.

Steve
 
On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 21:04:15 +0100, Steve Taylor
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Simon Isaacs wrote:
>
>> and I have no steak left to take the bruising and swelling down from
>> my black eyes.
>
>Wait till she finds out about the October do then.
>
>Steve

What Simon needs is a 101...
--

Tim Hobbs

'58 Series 2 88" aka "Stig"
'77 101FC Ambulance aka "Burrt"
'03 Volvo V70
 
Tim Hobbs wrote:

>
> What Simon needs is a 101...

And a large bottle of Witch Hazel.

Steve
 
On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 21:29:11 +0100, Tim Hobbs <[email protected]> scribbled
the following nonsense:

>On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 21:04:15 +0100, Steve Taylor
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Simon Isaacs wrote:
>>
>>> and I have no steak left to take the bruising and swelling down from
>>> my black eyes.
>>
>>Wait till she finds out about the October do then.
>>
>>Steve
>
>What Simon needs is a 101...

Expect a call tonight regarding such.....
--

Simon Isaacs

Peterborough 4x4 Club Newsletter Editor and Webmaster
Green Lane Association (GLASS) Commercial Officer
Part owner of 1976 S3 LWT, Fully restored, ready for sale! Make me an offer!
Suzuki SJ410 (Wife's) 3" lift kit fitted, body shell now restored and mounted on chassis, waiting on a windscreen and MOT
Series 3 88" Rolling chassis...what to do next
1993 200 TDi Discovery
1994 200 TDi Discovery body sheel, being bobbed and modded.....
1979 Range Ruster body shell and chassis
 
in article [email protected], Mother at "@ {mother}
@"@101fc.net wrote on 30/8/05 7:17 pm:

> I'm wondering whether I actually need something like the Optima
> Yelloptops in Grumble - as they're only used for the ancillary
> equipment like fridge, interior lighting, water pump and stereo.
>
> optimas are expensive (circa 150 odd quid) and only have a capacity of
> 55Ah. I've been trying to find something with at least twice that
> capacity, and also sealed, leak-proof and need very little venting
> (they go inside the truck, you see).
>
> Found these:
>
> http://www.batmanuk.com/leisure.htm
>
> Does anyone have any experience of them? They seem reasonably well
> priced - and free delivery (alright, included in the price, ex VAT).
>
> Or suggest similar?
>

Bruce uses the following company for batteries. Had his power tool
batteries reconditioned, and said it was like having new kit.

They are called Multicell and their website is http://www.multicell.co.uk

e-mail: [email protected]
Multicell International Limited
Swannington Road
Broughton Astley
Leicester LE9 6TU, England
Telephone: 01455 283 443
Fax: 01455 284 250

Nikki

 
On Fri, 02 Sep 2005 09:13:01 GMT, Nikki <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Bruce uses the following company for batteries.

Doesn't help at present, but a flipping useful link anyway (thinks
Makita batteries) Ta much Nikki (and Bruce) :)

 
"Simon Isaacs" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

> --
>
> Simon Isaacs
>
> Peterborough 4x4 Club Newsletter Editor and Webmaster
> Green Lane Association (GLASS) Commercial Officer
> Part owner of 1976 S3 LWT, Fully restored, ready for sale! Make me an
> offer!
> Suzuki SJ410 (Wife's) 3" lift kit fitted, body shell now restored and
> mounted on chassis, waiting on a windscreen and MOT
> Series 3 88" Rolling chassis...what to do next
> 1993 200 TDi Discovery
> 1994 200 TDi Discovery body sheel, being bobbed and modded.....
> 1979 Range Ruster body shell and chassis

Nope you'd never fit it in that sig... never.

Besides Tim would then HAVE to fit a V8 in the series II (a man needs some
sort of cheap thrills..... ok so it's not cheap).

Hey Tim... you need a V8 and Auto... 4.6 and ...... ok I'll stop now :0)

Lee D


 
in article [email protected], Mother at "@ {mother}
@"@101fc.net wrote on 3/9/05 1:06 am:

> On Fri, 02 Sep 2005 09:13:01 GMT, Nikki <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Bruce uses the following company for batteries.
>
> Doesn't help at present, but a flipping useful link anyway (thinks
> Makita batteries) Ta much Nikki (and Bruce) :)
>
That's what he had done. Couldn't get over how much difference a
reconditioned battery made on his cordless drills. Much cheaper than
replacement batteries as well - most Makita, £20 max per battery.
--
Nikki

2000 Discovery V8
1990 Discovery V8
1979 Lightweight 2.25 petrol
1976 Series lll 2.25 petrol - in need of repair

 
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