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Disco 2 Opportunistic Thief Stole My Rear Bumper End Cap!

Discussion in 'Land Rover Discovery' started by Intestinalworm, Apr 14, 2018.

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  1. Intestinalworm

    Intestinalworm Active Member

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    Some opportunistic bugger has prised off the rear bumper end cap on my 2003 Land Rover Discovery 2 Td5!!!:mad::mad::mad: Why go to an Auto Wreckers when you can just steal parts from cars parked on the street! Thought I did the right thing parking it in a quiet end of the street!o_O

    Anyway, I believe the part number is DQR101080. Is anyone able to confirm? It's a black plastic piece of bumper trim that sits atop the rear bumper - this one is on the driver's side (RHD).

    Does anyone in Australia/Melbourne know where I can source one used or new?

    Might even be cheaper freighting over from the UK?

    Will I need to purchase new trim clips to hold it on?

    I assume it was pretty easy to take (prise) off, so relatively simple to pop on a new one?

    Really disappointing that people stoop to this sort of rubbish!:oops::mad:
     
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    There's somebody in the UK who breaks many Discovery 2's & appears to have a good reputation for shipping parts overseas. I'm not related , but have used him a few times & can recommend him.
    If you use the D2 Boys Club internet forum, he's on there with the username heathy, but he's also on Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/discovery2parts/

    You will need new clips, they almost always break when the quarter bumper is removed (3 per trim)
    They do just "pop on", I find it's easier to fit the side clip to the body & the other 2 rear ones in the trim, then start the rear clips in the body holes while lining up the side clip to slide into the slot in the trim piece.
    There should be a self tapper screwed through a small flange which goes behind the bumper. The flange is often broken off the trim though.
     
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    Thanks for the info - much appreciated.
     
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    Well, bumper end cap (used) just arrived. Here are a few photos:

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    Reckon the bugger just prised it off with a screwdriver! The red circles show 2 x rear tri-lobed grommets and 1 x side tri-lobed grommet. The yellow circle shows the self-tapper (can't access it easily as it's behind the main bumper); I assume the self tapper secures the tab on the end cap - the stolen end cap will therefore have a broken tab? Will I have to remove the bumper bar to secure the tab with the self-tapper?

    Not sure about the purple circled hole?


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    Okay, here is the end cap that I now need to install. Note the two red circled green plastic scrivets that push into the rear tri-lobed grommets and the red circled clear plastic scrivet that pushes into the side tri-lobed grommet. Note the yellow circled tab that I presume the self-tapper secures?

    So, should I just ignore the tab for the self-tapper or remove the bumper so I can secure it? Is it otherwise just a matter, as you said, of pushing the clear plastic scrivet into the side grommet, then pushing hard on the rear of the end cap and pushing the two rear green plastic scrivets into the grommets whilst at the same time sliding the side of the end cap onto the clear plastic side scrivet?

    Struggling to see how these scrivets will push into the tri-lobed grommets? Does that look right?

    Cheers.
     
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    If the grommets will just push in then that should be secure enough. May be worth putting a blob of adhesive on the lug for the self tapper. I'm surprised the person who did it didn't do any damage!!
     
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    The plastic bits remaining in the bodywork holes all need to be removed !
    They're just the remnants of the old fasteners - which can't sensibly be re-used.
    There are different versions of fasteners, your old ones are 2 piece (not standard) & you're new ones are 1 piece & look like the genuine Land Rover items .
    You're correct about the lower lug on the corner trims also being used to retain them .
    You can usually flex the front edge of the bumper downwards just enough to get a screwdriver onto the screwheads.
    Typically, if you off-road the car seriously, you'll get to the point where the rear bumper will bottom out, start to flex upwards, break the lugs & then force the whole corner trim off the car.
    I compete off-road with mine & have lost so many of the trims, I no longer bother with the screw into the lug & have a loose tie wrap each side so that when they get forced off, they hang down rather than get lost in the mud or undergrowth !
     
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    No damage - I expect the plastic lug for the self-tapper on the stolen end cap is likely broken though as the self-tapper is still there.
     
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    Yeah, that makes sense - remove the tri-lobed grommet (three off) pressed into the panel? Find it hard to see how the new scrivets could ever press into these grommets; the scrivets instead need to press into a hole in the panel? My previous fasteners are 100% original and I'm now sure they were two piece - the tri-lobe grommets were left behind still pressed into the panel. Will remove the three tri-lobed grommets then and just have the new scrivets pressing into the holes in the panel. Will try flexing down the front edge of the bumper to secure the self-tapper. Thanks so much for the advice.
     
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    Anyone know what the blue circled hole is about - on top horizontal face of the bumper proper?
     
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    All done.

    Removed the three plastic tri-lobe grommets with a small screwdriver to reveal the three holes in the panel. Secured the two rear scrivets in the end cap and pushed the side scrivet into the hole in the side of the panel - pushed end cap in at the rear whilst simultaneously sliding the side of the end cap onto the base of the side scrivet that was already secured into the side panel - easy peasy; just put a smear of dishwashing liquid on the scrivets to lessen the chance of breakages. As was suggested, used a Phillips screwdriver (with magnetic tip) to secure the end cap side tab by gently pushing down the main bumper at the corner just a tad.

    Only thing was a long piece of rubber foam then fell out from behind the main rear bumper at the corner I had pushed down a tad. Cleaned up the 8" length of tapered foam rubber and will put some adhesive on it and secure it back inside the bumper edge.

    Now, hopefully there aren't any more low-life "pick-a-part" Land Rover owners out there!!!:mad:

    Thanks to all that responded - much appreciated. Even with a small job it's good to seek advice on the net (Landyzone is great) to ensure a relatively trouble-free fix.:D
     
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    The hole in the top surface of the bumper that you've circled in blue is where there should be another plastic retainer holding the bumper skin onto the plastic bumper armature. The retainer is 2 pieces with a semi barbed spigot with a large flange which is pushed into the armature & then a small diameter plastic pin is pushed hard into the centre hole of the spigot to lock the retainer in place.
    The retainers usually only break if the bumper has been hit fairly hard from behind the car.
    I wonder if someone has accidentally driven into your bumper, pushing it up & forwards, breaking the retainer & forcing the corner trim off ?
    The retainer is relatively easy to install - whil the corner trim is off (lol). The spigot part of the retainer is usually broken off & still jammed in the bumper armature. Make sure the bumper skin & armature holes are lined up & you can see the retainer remains, then drift it downwards with something about 6 or 7mm diameter & flat ended. The remains will drop on the floor. You can drill it out if your careful & don't use too large a drill.
    You can small packs of the retainers off eBay cheaply if you can work out what diameter they are (there are quite a few of similar, but incorrect diameter retainers used for BMWs & other makes ! I've got the collection to prove it). It's often easier to pit to centre pin by greasing it - so it slides in easier without buckling ( I've damaged loads as my rear bumper gets a lot of abuse)
    This might be the correct item (please check if the diameter looks correct !) https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/10x-BMW-Bumper-Splashguard-Plastic-Rivet-Body-Trim-Panel-Retaining-Clips/371122106275?_trkparms=aid=222007&algo=SIC.MBE&ao=2&asc=50545&meid=7bbd2d2be1ec40699bfd4c11e4dd847e&pid=100011&rk=2&rkt=12&sd=270818154580&itm=371122106275&_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850
     
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    Possible someone did hit the bumper as you say - there is a scuff mark on the side of the main bumper but pretty sure that was there before? Yeah, all done and just ignored the blue circled hole. Might try those clips you mentioned (you linked above) and will therefore have to pry off the end cap again.

    Bought some Gorilla Glue to stick the 6" long foam piece back behind the bumper - foam piece fell on to the road and I noticed there is an identical foam piece behind the edge of the bumper on the other side. Just a foam spacer - assuming the glue just stop holding it in place?
     
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    yes, the fosm spacer is glued on to mske assy of the bumper easier without losing the foam.
    The foam is there to prevent the bumper vibrating agsinst the body due to the air flowing past it at high speed pulling the bumper front edge in & out.
     
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    Not sure what type of plastic the bumper is - polypropylene? Hopefully the Gorilla glue holds the foam spacer to the inside of the bumper (correct adhesive selection can be a pain at times). Thanks for the explanation - makes sense.:D
     
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