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Hi all,

My name is Rich, been looking for a cheap D1 3dr for a while for a tow vehicle (I run my own garage/restoration/custom workshop). Ideally i wanted a black one, but they have all been too expensive and at some point a revamp will see it painted anyway. Also, I wanted a V8... for noise reasons more than anything!

So, after a long search, I think I've got my hands on a moss-covered red 3dr 200tdi, so not black or V8, good start. But it was silly cheap! Any minimal rot to speak of with mint exterior panels.

So, after a mop and polish I want to fit 10x16 mod's on 37" Creepies, but as I'm only after the 'look' I want to keep cutting and lifting to a bare minimum., maybe just a flexi-arch kit. Should get to much rubbing mounting the kerb when dropping the kid off at school! Don't get time to go out playing off-road so I won't lie and pretend I do but I love the looks of the Discovery from a potential-perspective.

My question is, is it relatively simple to V8 a Tdi without buying a full donor?

My other option involves the remains of a fire-damaged D2 4.0V8 I spotted on ebay as my main aim with this is to create a 3dr facelift D2, but without the extra length in the back. I've been studying the chassis specs between the D1 and D2 and I think I can get the 3dr shell on a modified D2 chassis and then transfer the front end panelwork and rework the swage-line into the 3dr 1/4's, D2 rear lights, black paint etc etc yadda yadda... Though this would involve more of a road look with 20's but I need some Creepies in my life right now!!!!

So yeah, for now is it possible to V8 a Tdi?

Also, I'm ex MG-Rover and specialise in K-series/KV6's so any advice please ask. I have a 'Gaylander' V6 ES that my fiancée drives, bought with HGF and now runs a Freelanderspares prop blanking plate to improve MPG a bit as the VCU was very tight and the rear diff bearings are a bit sloppy. Taking the rear diff out to save weight and further improve mpg via less weight, hopefully 30mpg is possible!
 
Firstly, you will have to do some serious and i mean serious cutting and lifting to fit 37's, i would have thought at least a 2" lift maybe more and the arches will have to be cut alot, and you'll probably need spacers but not too sure on that. If you are only doing it for looks then put some bigger tyres on it by all means but not 37's, its just not worth it!! It will handle like a bastard on the road as well. Secondly Tdi to V8 is very possible, not too sure about the engine mounting points but the V8s and the 200 Tdi have the same gearbox so should just bolt straight on, but someone correct me if im talking crap! Also theres probably a lot more rust than you think, rip all the carpets out especially the boot floor and see what you find!!:rolleyes: Hope this helps:)
 
Yeah I know cutting will be involved but I want to keep an OE-ish look if possible. I've been Googling and looked at the 35's but they just don't have the same presence as the 37's. The wheels are the extreme offset ones (-50) so apparently no need for spacers as they are far away from the radius arms, and the fact I'll have no off-road articulation to worry about... we'll see. I'm used to doing umpteen-point turns with the other cars I drive so not massively fussed about lock either. An imitation bead-lock rim may be fitted also.

Checked all the boot floor, inner wings, flitches, headlamp panel, seriously is bloody tidy! Don't get me wrong there is a couple of bits (it is a K-plate after all!) but nothing to worry about, but the outer alloy panels show no signs of bubbling up. Biggest issue I have with it is the beige interior so I'll have to look for a grey one.

As for mileage, it won't do a lot, mainly just a bit of fun to pose in if it hasn't got to venture out and trailer something back to the workshop. I get LPG fitted for a very good price so I may look into fitting it to this, which is why a V8 is on the cards.

Probs not everyones cup of tea me being a pseudo-offroader but I get dirty enough at work without being upto my knees in mud!

Anyone on here got a Disco on 37's?
 
should buy my 300tdi
5dr. very very good nick. fresh major service. cb fitted. roff rack. new head unit with built in bluetooth handsfree. jates on the front. top notch ;-)
 
All sounds abit too long winded and complicated for me ,why not just buy a v8 from the start ,my advice is this ,,,,keep things simple ! its only a tow truck remember ,concentrate on making money ,not spending it in this economic climate .
 
Customs Inc said:
Hi all,

My name is Rich, been looking for a cheap D1 3dr for a while for a tow vehicle (I run my own garage/restoration/custom workshop). Ideally i wanted a black one, but they have all been too expensive and at some point a revamp will see it painted anyway. Also, I wanted a V8... for noise reasons more than anything!

So, after a long search, I think I've got my hands on a moss-covered red 3dr 200tdi, so not black or V8, good start. But it was silly cheap! Any minimal rot to speak of with mint exterior panels.

So, after a mop and polish I want to fit 10x16 mod's on 37" Creepies, but as I'm only after the 'look' I want to keep cutting and lifting to a bare minimum., maybe just a flexi-arch kit. Should get to much rubbing mounting the kerb when dropping the kid off at school! Don't get time to go out playing off-road so I won't lie and pretend I do but I love the looks of the Discovery from a potential-perspective.

My question is, is it relatively simple to V8 a Tdi without buying a full donor?

My other option involves the remains of a fire-damaged D2 4.0V8 I spotted on ebay as my main aim with this is to create a 3dr facelift D2, but without the extra length in the back. I've been studying the chassis specs between the D1 and D2 and I think I can get the 3dr shell on a modified D2 chassis and then transfer the front end panelwork and rework the swage-line into the 3dr 1/4's, D2 rear lights, black paint etc etc yadda yadda... Though this would involve more of a road look with 20's but I need some Creepies in my life right now!!!!

So yeah, for now is it possible to V8 a Tdi?

Also, I'm ex MG-Rover and specialise in K-series/KV6's so any advice please ask. I have a 'Gaylander' V6 ES that my fiancée drives, bought with HGF and now runs a Freelanderspares prop blanking plate to improve MPG a bit as the VCU was very tight and the rear diff bearings are a bit sloppy. Taking the rear diff out to save weight and further improve mpg via less weight, hopefully 30mpg is possible!
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if you put the 37" cc on there and keep it as a tdi it will be painfully slow
my mate had a 200tdi rrc and had 37" cc on it and in the end he had to remove them and put some bfg mts on it as it was sooo slow.
i got 36" simex on my v8 rrc bobtail with no real issues
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adymanchester said:
All sounds abit too long winded and complicated for me ,why not just buy a v8 from the start ,my advice is this ,,,,keep things simple ! its only a tow truck remember ,concentrate on making money ,not spending it in this economic climate .
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It probably is long winded for someone who wants to get muddy asap, I don't. I have been looking for a V8, but nothing turned up in 3-dr guise that was decent enough. For now I only want to fit the wheels and a spruce up and get using it. I'll get the V8 bits and tackle the swap in a weekend.

Money wise, the thing only cost me £100, wheels and tyres are about £900-ish, plus other bits, V8 lumps aren't too dear, so for a couple of grand give or take' it aint bad, I can earn that back in a couple of days. It's not just a tow truck either, I intend to rumble down the main roads at the weekend too :rolleyes:

Speed with the Tdi and 37's isn't an issue, most of my cars barely get over speed humps so I'm used to it, there's millions around here!

I'm guessing there's not too many people on here who are as concerned with the visuals as I am?!
 
Customs Inc said:
It probably is long winded for someone who wants to get muddy asap, I don't. I have been looking for a V8, but nothing turned up in 3-dr guise that was decent enough. For now I only want to fit the wheels and a spruce up and get using it. I'll get the V8 bits and tackle the swap in a weekend.

Money wise, the thing only cost me £100, wheels and tyres are about £900-ish, plus other bits, V8 lumps aren't too dear, so for a couple of grand give or take' it aint bad, I can earn that back in a couple of days. It's not just a tow truck either, I intend to rumble down the main roads at the weekend too :rolleyes:

Speed with the Tdi and 37's isn't an issue, most of my cars barely get over speed humps so I'm used to it, there's millions around here!

I'm guessing there's not too many people on here who are as concerned with the visuals as I am?!
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I care about the visuals but not to the point I want to ruin my car. You will set off at a snails pace with wheels that size. Why not fit a defender transfer box to compensate?

Oh and if you're not going to put a 4 inch lift minimum on it then you best get some seriously heavy duty springs. My mate has spacers, 2 inch lift, extended arches and 34 inch tyres and they still catch on speed bumps.
 
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I will be liaising with the company who makes my customs springs as I would like to improve the on-road handling to keep it more level round the bends. Looking into what uprated ARB's and such like are also on the market. Abit of rubbing doesn't bother me too much as I drive this thing a few days of the week, and this things rubs on a fag packet wrapper!

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I have been researching the ratios of the various axles/diffs/tranny-boxes, now trying to figure out what fits what and it's suitability when V8-converted also.

My inspiration on the looks is from Back To The Future of all things, always like his black truck that Biff was polishing for him in the garage!
 
Woooah there let me get this straight !



You think yr gettin a D1 ?
You want to use it as a Tow vehicle ?
with 37" creepies on it ?

What the feck you gonna tow with that?

You want to keep cutting and lifting to a bare minimum.....Ok I get that.
Your going to be dropping the kid off at school ................Kids either gonna be dead chuffed or dead embarressed.

Your concerned with the visuals?
So you think yr gettin a moss covered D1 ?


You want to improve the on-road handling to keep it more level round the bends?
Drive fekkin slower, or stick to yr metro ;)

Yr gonna get the V8 bits and tackle the swap in a weekend?
I didn't think that was possible :D

Your inspiration on the looks is from Back To The Future and a black truck that Biff was polishing in the garage? :confused:













.................................................. I'm speechless :confused:




Can somebody wooosh me please :rolleyes: :D :D :D
 
Bromsgrove Defender said:
Woooah there let me get this straight !



You think yr gettin a D1 ?
You want to use it as a Tow vehicle ?
with 37" creepies on it ?

What the feck you gonna tow with that?

You want to keep cutting and lifting to a bare minimum.....Ok I get that.
Your going to be dropping the kid off at school ................Kids either gonna be dead chuffed or dead embarressed.

Your concerned with the visuals?
So you think yr gettin a moss covered D1 ?


You want to improve the on-road handling to keep it more level round the bends?
Drive fekkin slower, or stick to yr metro ;)

Yr gonna get the V8 bits and tackle the swap in a weekend?
I didn't think that was possible :D

Your inspiration on the looks is from Back To The Future and a black truck that Biff was polishing in the garage? :confused:













.................................................. I'm speechless :confused:




Can somebody wooosh me please :rolleyes: :D :D :D
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lmfao:D

btw im looking for a red discovery but a black one will do
 
Ok sorry guys, I've altered my wish-list so I can become a member of your elitist club;

Winch bumper
Snorkel
White Wellers with white lettered MT's
Wellington Boots
Herd of sheep
Recordable Sky box so I can do a series-record of Scrapheap Challenge.

****ing Please........

Broomgrove, why is everything so impossibly impossible to you?

Yes I want to tow with a D1 on 37's, problem? Are you regarding the height of the tow-ball? Ever thought that somebody is capable of making a removable set-up that is at an appropriate height, or the possibility that the wheels could be swapped for such duties?

Yes I'm concerned with looks, yes I'm getting a moss-covered D1. Have you ever heard of washing car, followed by what is know as buffing and detailing? That mud you get on yours does wash off mate....

Whats so hard about and engine swap in a weekend? More so when you have 2500sq/ft of workshop with a ramp, mig, tig, lathe, mill, plasma-cam, mandrel bender etc etc etc. If you can't get an engine and tranny swapped in a weekend at least ready for wiring and fitting up, your ****.

Yes I'd like it to improve the handling, but did I say a wanted it to be like a ****ing sportscar? No. I said I'd like it to be more level and reduce the sliding-out-of-the-seat effect. Yes, I could stick to my metro (1380 'charged by the way, ****ing quick), or I could hop in my 05 Grand Cherokee, V6 Hippo, Rover Streetwise with KV6 in it with a GT17 strapped to each bank, my work Montego van with tuned L-series, or my Rover 100 van with an even more tuned Rover L-series in it. Or, if I wanted to go really quick I'd hop into my LS7-powered Rover 75-panelled MG ZT 260, which has circa 620hp.

But, alas, I would like to do a bit of work on an old D1 as I like fiddling and changing things around, fabricating and welding, and painting. I'm just not into off-roading particularly. So I'll leave most of the above tucked up in bed for now.

Yes, I like the black Toyota truck in BTTF, oh **** I must be a ****ing Homo... I just like old-school styling big ****ing deal.

There's a few young guys I know who are getting into Land Rovers, coming for the VW scene, so what if we want some of the beefed-up looks without actually wanting to get muddy, does it matter? I'm sure the traders want give a **** when we're parting with cash for parts. **** all of the new LR's sold go off-road but you don't slag them off a much.

All I was doing was introducing myself, admitting I wanted the looks without without the dirt, and just politely asking for mild opinions. I've done a lot of searching without asking FAQ's regarding ratio's and gearing, as we all know you don't like a searcher....

I've read a bit through the Freelander forum and some of you who post but don't own a Freelander and a bit ****ing rude to be honest, I guess there's the odd few on here who have got their bell-ends wet in a long time so they feel the need vent their frustrations on here to make people believe they are so mightily superior to everyone else.

And i thought VW forums were full of bitches....

Rant over for now.
 
Customs Inc said:
Ok sorry guys, I've altered my wish-list so I can become a member of your elitist club;


Winch bumper

Snorkel

White Wellers with white lettered MT's

Wellington Boots

Herd of sheep

Recordable Sky box so I can do a series-record of Scrapheap Challenge.



****ing Please.........
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Geezus H K riste..... Put yr dummy back, in if you've got a Landrover you are a member of "our elitist club"

Customs Inc said:
Broomgrove, why is everything so impossibly impossible to you?

Yes I want to tow with a D1 on 37's, problem?

Are you regarding the height of the tow-ball? Ever thought that somebody is capable of making a removable set-up that is at an appropriate height, or the possibility that the wheels could be swapped for such duties?
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1. As for yr 37' i was alluding to the fact your gearing is going be all to shiite so moving your self is going be an issue, never mind towing ;)
But then what the feck do I know I dont have a V8 :D

Swapping the wheels for towing.................. Really ?

Shirley if your going to put a V8 in and put 37's on I'd assume you'd also have to alter the transmission to suit the lower gearing.
But then what the feck do I know I'm not a mechanic. :D

Customs Inc said:
Yes I'm concerned with looks, yes I'm getting a moss-covered D1. Have you ever heard of washing car, followed by what is know as buffing and detailing? That mud you get on yours does wash off mate.....
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2. Yeah but it will still be an old Disco though ;)
What the feck do I know I drive a Defender
:D


Customs Inc said:
Whats so hard about and engine swap in a weekend? More so when you have 2500sq/ft of workshop with a ramp, mig, tig, lathe, mill, plasma-cam, mandrel bender etc etc etc. If you can't get an engine and tranny swapped in a weekend at least ready for wiring and fitting up, your ****..
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3. My apologies I thought you meant up and running :doh:


Customs Inc said:
Yes I'd like it to improve the handling, but did I say a wanted it to be like a ****ing sportscar? No. I said I'd like it to be more level and reduce the sliding-out-of-the-seat effect. Yes, I could stick to my metro (1380 'charged by the way, ****ing quick), or I could hop in my 05 Grand Cherokee, V6 Hippo, Rover Streetwise with KV6 in it with a GT17 strapped to each bank, my work Montego van with tuned L-series, or my Rover 100 van with an even more tuned Rover L-series in it. Or, if I wanted to go really quick I'd hop into my LS7-powered Rover 75-panelled MG ZT 260, which has circa 620hp. .
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4. Really :cool:



Customs Inc said:
But, alas, I would like to do a bit of work on an old D1 as I like fiddling and changing things around, fabricating and welding, and painting. I'm just not into off-roading particularly. So I'll leave most of the above tucked up in bed for now..
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5. Fair comment :D

Customs Inc said:
Yes, I like the black Toyota truck in BTTF, oh **** I must be a ****ing Homo... I just like old-school styling big ****ing deal..
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6. Nothing wrong with old-school styling. Did I mention I drive a defender :D
I just genuinely didn't understand the connection.

Customs Inc said:
There's a few young guys I know who are getting into Land Rovers, coming for the VW scene, so what if we want some of the beefed-up looks without actually wanting to get muddy, does it matter? I'm sure the traders want give a **** when we're parting with cash for parts. **** all of the new LR's sold go off-road but you don't slag them off a much..
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7. Not quite true but, so few as makes no difference I guess :D
It's not about the off-roading as some of our feelander aficionados seem to think.
It's the comradary the non shall be left behind or stuck, well not after a little **** taking anyway aspect of Landrovering that some just don't seem to get, that really annoys. ;)

Customs Inc said:
All I was doing was introducing myself, admitting I wanted the looks without without the dirt, and just politely asking for mild opinions. I've done a lot of searching without asking FAQ's regarding ratio's and gearing, as we all know you don't like a searcher.....
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Wrong it's the non searchers we're not so keen on. ;)
And dont ever ask for mild opinions or take offence cos someones dont agree with yours ;)

Customs Inc said:
I've read a bit through the Freelander forum and some of you who post but don't own a Freelander and a bit ****ing rude to be honest, I guess there's the odd few on here who have got their bell-ends wet in a long time so they feel the need vent their frustrations on here to make people believe they are so mightily superior to everyone else..
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Fair point. But see note 7. ;)

Customs Inc said:
And i thought VW forums were full of bitches....



Rant over for now.
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