my new p38 HSE is sick already......!

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P38_Ireland

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right got in to start her up and had been driving her round for the afternoon, started her and it sounded rough and would barly move so stuck my new FCR reader on it that i bought from BBS (who i forgot to mention I eat my hat on the subject its a smoking piece of kit and every p38 owner NEEDS!!! I HERE BY SUPPORT BBS AND ADMIT I WAS WRONG IN PREVIOUS POSTS!! cant wait to get stick from you lads now over that!! lol) and found the following codes

on Lucas Gems
010183- fuel temp sensor
011364- no ignition coil activation 4 cylinder no 2-3
011362- same as above only 2 cylinder 5-8
011374- early ignition coil 4 cylinders 2-3

im no mechanic but does this mean there not firing?? im guessing replace the HT leads, maybe a coil and the spark plugs and see where i am then? it was driving fine until this popped up.
 
You may also need to look at the fuel rails...

I won't give you stick, cos I got the full monty Faultmate from BBS and also think it is a great bit of kit...

BTW did you clear the faults to see if they came back?
 
Good advice to re-set the codes and see what pops up first. Are any of the faults recorder as "Currently present" or "has occured XXX times" or "Is not currently present"
My gut feeing is coils.
 
I won't give you stick, cos I got the full monty Faultmate from BBS and also think it is a great bit of kit...

Jeez Garret, you're after getting off lightly here!!

Can't beat a good old hands up admission of being wrong though, not everyone is big enough to come clean like that, well done!

Cormac
 
had a long chat to irishrover on the dog and bone and was great to get some info, what a knowledgeable and nice chap. he gave me some ideas to get started on. so when i got home i disconnected each HT lead 1 at a time and tested them with a multi meter. 3 leads gave no current while i turned the key which leads me to believe the coil block is to blame.

will update when i get the new coil pack.
 
Hello P38-Ireland

First off let me thank you personally for your extremely magnanimous comments and attitude.
its a smoking piece of kit and every p38 owner NEEDS!!! I HERE BY SUPPORT BBS AND ADMIT I WAS WRONG IN PREVIOUS POSTS!!

It takes a very big man indeed to admit they were wrong, and as such you have my total respect and admiration, and i suspect everyones, so don't be so sure you will get the slagging off and jibing you might expect.

There is quite definatley two opposing groups of people:
The first has heard of us and our equipment but thinks that its too expensive, they don't need it and there is room or possibility for something better or cheaper.

The second, has invested in our equipment and knows much better.

:welcome2:
Welcome aboard group 2 chap:)
I hope you get to sort your current P38 woes.
 
There is quite definatley two opposing groups of people:
The first has heard of us and our equipment but thinks that its too expensive, they don't need it and there is room or possibility for something better or cheaper.

The second, has invested in our equipment and knows much better.

im a big fan of your products bbs, ive seen the people on here convert as soon as they have tried it! as soon as ive got a bit of spare cash i'll be investing in your newest product.

My hat goes off to you for what must of been alot of hard work getting where you are now.
 
Hello P38-Ireland

First off let me thank you personally for your extremely magnanimous comments and attitude.


It takes a very big man indeed to admit they were wrong, and as such you have my total respect and admiration, and i suspect everyones, so don't be so sure you will get the slagging off and jibing you might expect.

Well thanks for letting me off the hook so easily there! i might also point out that when i bought the new P38 i knew my FCR was locked to my original but after a quick call to BBS in Cyprus they emailed me a new licence for a small fee to cover my new P38 and bingo installed in about 10 ins i was reading fault codes!!

maybe it exists or not but is there a list of codes on the BBs website that can expand on some fault codes ie give more info explanations?
 
Thanks tommo138 ;)
It sure has been a very long and hard struggle, i am far from wealthy by anyones standards, and some days i really do wonder if it has been worth it. Especially when dealing with some arrogant muppet that thinks he has some right to buy good low cost diagnostic equipment, and that having paid us a few hundred quid for some, that somehow gives him the right to be rude and abusive to us.

But then i read some comment from someone who is totally appreciative of what we provide and how it has helped them, and i know full well that without our efforts, things would definately have been very different.
I firmly and honestly believe that almost all of what else has been developed for Land Rovers was done directly off the back, or as a result of what we did.
For example, as far as i know there is still nothing at all availaible outside the manufacturers own equipment for many brands, such as Jaguar, Ford, Saab and many more.
I know some peeple do not like me or the apparent monopoly we have in the market, and everyone wishes our products were cheaper and more affordable than they are, which is only natural, but how bad would it be if BBS dissapeared altogether and folks no longer had a BBS option at all :eek:. I suspect even those with lesser capable equipment who currently try to compete would raise their prices.

All i can say is i look forward to your getting one of our bits of Kit, hopefully the full MSV-2 EXTREME and enjoying it every bit as much as those you have read about do chap, and in the meantime, many thanks for posting up your supportive comments :)

P38_Ireland.
You are most welcome. Although i do reserve the right to have an occasional jibe or snigger as Fanatic puts it ;)

In fact, that you, who have so long been so obviously very Anti BBS have been converted by getting and trying our equipment yourself, especially to the degree you seem to have been, could not be a better advert for how "Smokin" as you put it, our equipment really and truly is.
Tell me again how good you now think it is LOL

I am most sure that, after reading your comments and the results of the Group buy, that it is dawning on a lot of LZ'rs that there was possibly never a better investment opportunity ever passed their way.
And i fully agree that this gear is so good, that every P38 owner should have one. I sure as hell never leave home without mine, ever ever ever, and it has saved my ass umpteen times already.

Now it seems you also now have a unique insight into how our Single Vehicle "locked to VIN" concept is not quite the negative and unsurmountable obsticle that many seem to think.

The reality is that our equipment is easily the best and most capable that there is. I think everyone now knows that, so i aint saying it as some promo BS, but typically as everyone knows, the best costs the most, and that would also be the same in our case, however our unique SV concept is really a very innovative way for us to provide that top of the line capability at a cost that any private owner or enthusiast can afford. And thats really our aim.

I appreciate, those thinking, just lower the price anyway and you will sell more to compensate. To those, i point to the Posts on here made by those who state their appreciation of us and our Sync mates (which are MV) being such brilliant bits of kit and then in the next breath offereing to lend or rent them out to anyone who needs one, and while innocently done and commendably communinaly spirited, that is, none the less, really taking bread straight out of our mouths or biting the hand that feeds, (take your pick)

I really do wish that i could lock our system to an individual, but short of electronic implants, i can't, so the best i can do is temporarily lock it to the indivuals cars by VIN and provide an easy and cheap route to move it from car to car.

I am therefore glad that you have discovered and can openly report how easily and cheaply that is actually done in practice.
Do you for example now think swapping cars again would mean you loose your BBS investment?

On the same note, i can tell you that not everyones experience of the relatively new P38 FCR has been totally without problem. We have, as a result of supplying quite a few in the field, discovered a small Bug affecting a really small amount of owners with unique aspects to their VIN.

However as with your being supplied an opportunity to uniquely get to appreciate first hand, just how well and easy it is to change your Locked to VIN, so any affected owner of our equipment and being a vicitim of this odd bug, also got to appreciate just how outstanding our technical support and problem solving capabilities are.
 
Who says you have been left off the hook ????:eek:

Most of the people on here were telling you that BBS were totally upfront with their offer and in no way were a "Fly by night" operator. The vast majority of BBS equipment owners are more than pleased with the gear and support that is given by them. Ok, the "Guvnor" can fly off the handle now and again, but can't we all ?
I have been a user of their kit for many years now and have found them to be second to none in the field of customer support. The effort put into the recent offer by Colin and Chris in putting the recent bulk purchase together is to be highly commended.
Now that you have succumbed and bought the FCR will no doubt confirm what I and others have been saying. I hope that you find it to be the most useful piece of kit in your toolbox and maybe you will move further on with expanding your diagnostic equipment. As I have said before, I have no commercial tie up or arrangements with BBS, I just tell it as it is...that said, if the Boss Man wants to pop over to Crete late September and buy me a couple of Ouzo's :beer2::beer2::beer2:, I won't say no!!

Just have a bit of faith and confidence in what you read on the forum, there is a lot of experience (Gained first hand) on here, from people who have been there, done that and got the T shirt many times over, o.k., we might not get it right first hand, but the collective input usually means that the end result is a fix, without resorting to a trip to the stealers.
 
Just have a bit of faith and confidence in what you read on the forum, there is a lot of experience (Gained first hand) on here, from people who have been there, done that and got the T shirt many times over, o.k., we might not get it right first hand, but the collective input usually means that the end result is a fix, without resorting to a trip to the stealers.

here here!!!!!!
 
had a long chat to irishrover on the dog and bone and was great to get some info, what a knowledgeable and nice chap. he gave me some ideas to get started on. so when i got home i disconnected each HT lead 1 at a time and tested them with a multi meter. 3 leads gave no current while i turned the key which leads me to believe the coil block is to blame.

will update when i get the new coil pack.

that didn't need a diagnostic kit now did it.
 
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