Land rover defender indicator problems

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Lej

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Hi there,

I've recently changed from normal OEM indicators to Wipac Led's including the wipac relay. They've been absolutely perfect until I checked the other night.

I'm having a problem whereby when I use the left indicator it turns all indicators on (excluding the halo around my right headlight).

Left indicator works perfectly and they all work fine when hazards are on.

Now here's the interesting part. The wing indicator decided to spit out a bulb and hasn't worked since. I took the green indicator live out of the unit and touched the chassis.

For some reason this then allows the left indicator to work but when turning on the right indicator the right indicators go out.

Am I looking at a dodgy relay or switch here? I'm so confused and could do with a hand.

Thank you all!
 
What is the age of your vehicle and what version would help. Might not be the LEDs unless the sources was a cheap buy.
 
Could be you Need an earthed tell tale bulb for the instrument cluster.look on bolt on bits site

Also you cannot have the halo & indicators flash. Something to do with lighting laws.
 
Hi there thanks for the replies;

It's a land rover 90 C reg.

I'll have a look into that Phill, thank you-

As for the halo, it's an amber halo around the headlamp, bit of a weird law to block use of it?

Cheers!
 
Sorry to be a pain,

Just out of interest- what's the reasoning for this fault? Thanks!
 
Hi there thanks for the replies;

It's a land rover 90 C reg.

I'll have a look into that Phill, thank you-

As for the halo, it's an amber halo around the headlamp, bit of a weird law to block use of it?

Cheers!

Don’t buy anything yet. Swap the bulbs over in your side repeaters, left for right, and see if the fault moves. If it doesn’t, swap the wing bulb holders over, left for right. I had an issue a couple of years ago, where indicating one way worked, the other way didn’t. It turned out to be a dodgy side repeater bulb.
When you swap the part, and the fault moves, you have found the faulty part. I would bet it’s either of the side repeaters, probably bulbs. Don’t take it for granted that because it lights up, it’s working ok, swap them over.

Another thing to check, sit in the cab, indicate one way, then the other. Look at the indicator tell tale, one way will be brighter than the other. The direction you are indicating, when it’s dim, is the side that has the issue.

There was a similar thread a few weeks back. Have a search.
 
I'll try that first and go from there. It sounds very much like the problem you had Mick, the tell tale is very bright indicating to the right and very dim indicating to the left. But it's the right side indicator bulb that has blown...

Thank you for the reply!
 
Hi there thanks for the replies;



As for the halo, it's an amber halo around the headlamp, bit of a weird law to block use of it?

Cheers!

Nothing weird about it. Vehicle lighting regulations states only one front indicator per side. Have a look at anything from the smallest car to large HGV, they all have only one indicator per side. Have a look at the light function code which states what the headlight is approved for use. IF the headlight is approved as an indicator as well you have to disable either the original indicator or the one in the headlight.


Brendan
 
Interesting, thanks for the info Brendan. That saved me an MOT fail... That is of course if I can actually get the electrics to work !
 
Hi guys just a quick update,

With your help I've managed to find the problem and move on to the next step, the issue was the Indicator tell tale, I know this because when I removed the tell tale bulb all indicators work as they should, it was indeed an earthing fault.

Next step is to purchase the tell tale correction.

Thank you all so much for your help, I was pulling my hair out!
 
If you have a search for my thread on this you'll see how to sort the tell tale problem with a couple of diodes. The tell tale allows a small amount of current to leak to the other side (the opposite side to the one you are indicating) . This isn't enough to light a normal bulb, but will light the LEDs , which need far less current.
 
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If you have a search for my thread on this you'll see how to sort the tell tale problem with a couple of diodes. The tell tale allows a small amount of current to leak to the other side (the opposite side to the one you are indicating) . This isn't enough to light a normal bulb, but will light the LEDs , which need far less current.

I linked to your thread in the other thread about LED side repeaters. It sorted it for the OP in the other thread.
 
Hi guys, just another update,

Purchased the tell tale correction as I needed a fast fix and had no time to spend on it.

I can happily report that the problem has been resolved using Hicap Hill's recommendation from bolt on bits.

Thank you all for the help, hopefully this thread helps the next hitchhiker.
 
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