P38A HEVAC Blend Motor Testing

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Having sorted my Green P38 heater distribution motor & gears recently, it's now having issues with the blend motors. Firstly, it's not the flaps - they both move freely.

Left one is working fine when I power it with a 9V battery & measure the pot resistance. HEVAC sometings bitches, but cleaning the connector sorted that.

The problem child is the right blend. Found the potentiometer was giving intermittent readings, so took it out & measured it across the full range. Thorough cleaning & resoldering it to the PCB cured that. Moving the motor with 9V battery now giving smooth feedback from end to end, and expected partial range when re-installed (about 1.2k to 6.5k ohms). Plugging back into HEVAC results in a current fault & feedback stuck at 40%, so it now looks like connector issues to the motor.

Also ran the car and moved the motor using 9V battery. Vents go from hot to cold with no problem. Set it about 40% for now, so the air is cool but not too cold !!

New 16-way connector on order, so will be replacing that. Planning to check & re-solder the HEVAC side as well, but already did that back in January when dash was out.
 
Adding to above, I’m also thinking about how to measure the HEVAC output voltage in case the board has hardware fault. I have a spare with bad display so the main board from that might help.
 
I can give you details of the motor drive chips if it would help. Bad display? Not the ZEBRA strip which can be replaced?
Probably the zebra yes, but never got round tuit. Are the motors direct from the chip, or any output transistors ? Was gonna look myself, but if you already have the info ?
 
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Direct from OP Amp driver chips. I'll dig the info out this evening.
It's raining again so here is the info on the chip that drives the blend and distribution motors.
L272 HEVAC chip.jpg

L272M pinouts.jpg


You can find the full spec on line.
 
Swapped over the main board from my spare HEVAC just now. Blend & Distribution all calibrate correctly & no faults. AC working well from hot to cold & vent selection as it should be.

Just for good measure I resoldered the 16-pin connector & Op-amps on the faulty board, but it still refuses to drive the right blend motor. Path from chip to the connector reads ok, so might try swapping the chip. Diagnosing further back is challenging because the PCB appears to be multi-layer, so tracing what drives the Op-amps is unclear.

The chip circled in picture connects to right-blend motor, so I'm assuming that's the fault.

IMG_1017.jpg
 
Swapped over the main board from my spare HEVAC just now. Blend & Distribution all calibrate correctly & no faults. AC working well from hot to cold & vent selection as it should be.

Just for good measure I resoldered the 16-pin connector & Op-amps on the faulty board, but it still refuses to drive the right blend motor. Path from chip to the connector reads ok, so might try swapping the chip. Diagnosing further back is challenging because the PCB appears to be multi-layer, so tracing what drives the Op-amps is unclear.

The chip circled in picture connects to right-blend motor, so I'm assuming that's the fault.

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Easy enough to check the output. I have had to replace one L272 which is why I have the data sheets.
 
Yes but eBay is quicker & easier than China. RS & Farnell postage is silly for a few op-amps, although they do stock the dual 16way+12way socket on the HEVAC PCB if I ever want to change that.
 
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