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Head Light Wire Colours

Discussion in 'Land Rover Freelander' started by mudinuri, Feb 24, 2019.

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  1. mudinuri

    mudinuri Active Member

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    Hi,
    I hope to get a Facelift front fitted to my 2003 Serengeti next week but I"m still having a problem sorting out the wiring.I have the connecting Plugs on
    the Facleift Lights but I need to know where they go.
    There are 4 wires BL;ACK. BLUE/PINK. BLUE/GREY. BLACK
    5 wires BLACK, RED/ BLACK. GREEN/RED. RED/BLACK. BLUE/BLACK
    The other side 4 wires BLACK. BLUE/GREEN. BLUE. BLACK
    5 wires BLACK. ORANGE/RED. GREEN/WHITE OR GREY. ORANGE/RED. BLACK.
    Any help will really be appreciated.
     
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    andyfreelandy Well-Known Member

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    This isn't a simple 'connect it up' situation. The 2003 pre-facelift uses different wiring to the headlights and the facelift has a system which turns main beam and dip beam on together when the lights are flashed or on main beam. You will need to either find someone that has done this or look at the 2003 and facelift circuits as you may well need another relay for the beam circuit. Burning out switches and relays is a possibility if you get this wrong.

    If you can find the old and new circuits it should be simple to look at the differences and rewire accordingly.
     
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    mudinuri Active Member

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    Hi Andyfreelandy
    Thanks for that. I"ve got the Haynes Manual for the older Freelanders like mine but I have tried to find the wiring circuit for the Facelift model and as yet have been unable to find one, I"ve even put a thread on here asking anyone who has the Haynes manual for the Facelift model but with no luck. There must be someway I could find the Facelift wiring circuit. I really don"t want to have to buy a manual.
    Cheers
     
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    Don't think Rave covers it. I'll check. You could get later manual off ebay?
     
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    Hi again. What"s RAVE?
     
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    andyfreelandy Well-Known Member

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    You'll be needing this!! Found it eventually. Seems to cover facelift wiring. Good luck.
     

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    The way the lights are powered is completely different between pre-facelift and facelift models. In pre-facelift models, there's a changeover relay, which turns off the dip when the mains are switched off. On the facelift, the dips are powered directly from the light switch, main beams being powered by a relay, so the dips don't go off when main is selected.
    You can replicate this with a simple relay to feed the dips when mains are on, taking the additional power from the battery.
     
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    Thanks for the info Andyfreelandy, really useful.
    Hi Nodge68. So will I have to bypass the existing changeover relay and in it"s place fit a new relay? and any idea where the change over relay is?
    The car goes in next month for it"s MOT so I think I"ll wait until that"s done before I start the work.
     
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    It's possible that swapping the changeover relay for a standard relay could just add the mains while keeping the dips on, but it would depend on the relay wiring. I'll take look at the wiring diagram when I get a moment.
    It's in the fuse box IIRC.
    That's the best plan. ;)
     
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    Cheers for that. Whilst I"m on I have 2 advisories on my MOT they are The N/S and O/S Anti Roll Bar Linkage Ball Joint Dust Covers. Can you buy the Dust Covers seperately or do I have to by ther whole Kit.
     
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    It's generally better to fit new drop links of suitable quality. ;)
     
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    Thanks again. I will do that
    cheers
     
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    It looks as if you can do the headlight wiring mod by changing the light switch on the steering column. The later one applies a feed to the main beam relay and retains the feed to the dip directly when on main beam. The earlier non facelift car has a switch that cuts the dip feed when main beam is selected. It even looks as though it will fit the existing plug! Just need to find one. Many sellers say their switch fits 2001 to 2006 when this is clearly wrong. If you compare the switch wiring on the attachment I posted and your earlier Haynes you will see what I mean. Obviously a relay tto feed dip when beam is on would also solve the problem but IF the switch is plug and play....... Please let us know which way you go. Anyone done this simple mod??
     
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    Or looks like you can convert your early switch to later configuration by simply linking pins 1 and 2 on the light switch on the steering column. This would mean that when headlights are on dip is powered and when main beam is selected dip stays on. Effectively bypassing the contacts that break the dip feed when beam is selected. Wires should be blue/orange pin 2 and blue pin 1. SORTED !!
     
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    Hi,
    Sorry mate I"m confused. If I link pins 1 and 2 on the light switch wouldn"t that mean that when you select dip wouldn"t the main beam also come on?
     
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    I've often thought this, but couldn't get an early and late switch for comparison. There is also a changeover relay on the early setup, which wouldn't work on the later models. More investigation is needed I think.
     
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    Maybe. My 2002 circuits show a simple beam relay and the light switch does the changeover. If you compare the circuit I posted for 2004 with early one you'll see the switch seems to be the only difference. Confusingly the relay us labelled dip/beam relay but appears to be a beam relay. Perhaps you could check my logic? Also, I'll pull the said relay and if dip still works then looks good to go.
     
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    That's very interesting, and would definitely make the facelift headlights an easier proposition.
    I went by the description, so assumed it was a changeover relay. :confused:
     
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    I hope you"re right Andyfreelandy because as Nodge said it will make the changing to Facelift lights much easier. Could you please keep me informed, please? Whilst I"m on, I think Nodge said something about the centre part of the front grill on the 2003 Freelander is seperate from the rest of the grill. I mean the part with the Oval on it, if this is right how easy is it to remove it, can I do it without having to remove the whole grill?
     
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