Front wiper problem

Hello

Have a strange problem on my new freelander TD4 from 2002. The front wiper works as long as the wiper switch is on BUT then I turn off the wiper switch the wipers stop in the position they are at that exact moment (instead of commplet the cycle and go back to parking spot). Older cars normaly had an relay that gave the motor power to end the cycle to park position but in this car as i understand it it is controlled by the CCU (carcomputer)?! Are there some relay attatched to the CCU or is there anything for this built in the motor? Any ide hove to fix it would be apreachiated.

Regards

You need to check that there is an ignition live to the motor when the wipers are turned off, this is the feed to the park switch inside the motor. If there is an ignition feed then its a motor fault (not uncommon).

If there is no feed then you need to check your wiring starting with the basics, fuse etc.

There is no complicated electronics with the wipers, the only thing controlled by the ccu is the variable delay. This will have nothing to do with your fault.

Dont use it in the rain,,,, If ye dae ano someone who'l av yer weels...

Thanks!
Will look at it this weekend.
Regards

Hope it's alright jumping on this thread.

I have a similar problem that I think is connected, but weird.

Wipers on 2001 freelander won't work when the vehicle has just started from cold. The only way the wipers work is by moving the stalk down. Tisting the stick does nothing. When in the intermitent position you can hear a click. I think this is coming from the CCU but no movement of the wiper. Once the car has warmed up a little everything seams to get pretty well back to normal.

First off I thought it was the wiper stalk, then I was thinking CCU, could it be the motor? Any advise appreciated. ta

Will M said:

Hope it's alright jumping on this thread.

I have a similar problem that I think is connected, but weird.

Wipers on 2001 freelander won't work when the vehicle has just started from cold. The only way the wipers work is by moving the stalk down. Tisting the stick does nothing. When in the intermitent position you can hear a click. I think this is coming from the CCU but no movement of the wiper. Once the car has warmed up a little everything seams to get pretty well back to normal.

First off I thought it was the wiper stalk, then I was thinking CCU, could it be the motor? Any advise appreciated. ta

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Probably the motor, they're **** and always going wrong

Hi Will
We seem to have the same wiper problem as you on our 2001 TD4. Have you taken the wiper motor apart or tried changing it yet?

Bob

Three possibilities I can think of.
1. Two fuses in passenger compartment fuse box are used for the wipers. Fuse 3 (20 amp) and Fuse 8 (15 amp). Check them both.
2.The wiper motor has the Park switch built in it driven by gears, these may of broken or mis-aligned them. Only changing the motor or taking it apart (if that is possible)and checking it may solve your problem.
3. Wipers are controlled by the central control unit (CCU) it has relays and semiconductor switches in it. Try borrowing one to see if this is your problem before buying one.

Doesn't time fly.

Bad weather coming in finally got around to fixing it. As the problem got worse it became easier to trace it. Turned out to be the Wiper stalk. Cost around £60 from Famous Four at Louth and took around 1 hour to replace, including reading how to do it in my Haynes manual. Thanks to the help here. Don't think I would have had the confidence to do it without it. Cheers guys

think i need to get you to talk to my wife. she thinks that I take a long time to do things, but you are in a different league to me !

There is no such thing as a '5 minute job'....

Unfortunately!

We have just had a lot of fine weather. Over here in Skegness it hardly ever rains

A bit of a thread bump here but my neighbours car has a similar problem by the sound of it;
The wash/wipe works and the wipers return to the parked position, however all 3 other setting when you twist the stalk don't work...
However!
When I fiddled with the indicators/lights/full beams etc which are on the same piece as the wiper stalk i assume, the wipers started working again. It's as if fiddling with the electrics on the other side of the swtich jolted things back to life again.
Is this a common problem? Loose connection? etc

Any help much appreciated.

Don't know if it's your problem but ignition switches commonly give trouble. Try moving the wiring around there.

For me the bit that confired it was the wiper stalk was moving the wiper switch slightly of its stopping positions, by just twisting it a little and the wipers worked. For me it had to be the stalk and swapping it, fixed it.

My flick wipe won't work, nor will fast speed. Any ideas? Intermittent and normal speed are fine!

Since a while I noticed also an odd operation of my wipers, when I selected either the intermittent or normal or fast speed none of the three would work, when on intermittent I could hear a slight click somewhere down the dash each time the wiper "should have" worked, but no movement at all, only when I pushed the stalk down for the "one time" operation, and this for a couple of times, it worked ok. After a couple of these "one time" actions the rest of the wipers came to live. So far so good but now that I have to go, on a daily basis, to the hospital and parked outside for some 8 hours I noticed the day before yesterday that I had, as it rained, to keep the stalk down on the "one time" position in order to have the screen wiped clear, it took several (5) minutes (it was rather cold) before the normal procedures worked again, also yesterday it was again the same, no wipers (though the rear window wiper always worked as normal and started directly as soon as I selected R) so also yesterday I had to keep that stalk down again but not for as long as the day before, it was slightly warmer. When I came home the day before yesterday I took out the fuse 3 a couple of times as I thought maybe some corrosion on it but that didn't cure it at all as yesterday again the same scenario. So yesterday evening I sprayed some WD40 in the holes on the base of that stalk near the steering column and also some in the groove about one inch of the top of the stalk, (the top part which turns to select intermittent and the two other speeds) and this morning everything worked perfect. As soon as I selected intermittent the wiper started, also the two other speeds worked from the first second. Again tonight everything still worked fine. My guess is that the problem was in that top part of the stalk where the contacts on the rotating top were maybe corroded and became cleaned by the WD40? The part near the steeringcolumn only serves when you push the stalk down and that worked correctly all the time so guess no problem at that part and as things seem to work now it must be near the rotating top of the stalk. Could it be that due to the corrosion no contact was given through as after a while when the contacts were warmed up by the, at that stage, delivered 12V and so overcame the corrosion ??

This info. just in case there are others with similar problems or going to have similar problems in the future. Looks as from 8 years or more this might show up ??

Right chaps, got a new toy tonight, the Rave manual. Looked at the circuits for this. There are separate power pathways for the main rotary selector switch and the pluse switch. In addition the timer wipe control, which is part of the CCU is separate again. If the rotary supply fails then the wipers don't work but the timer relay may well beat. The pulse switch will work. Its the stalk switch assembly. As usual, the high current contacts are getting to the end of their natural. Ultimately a new stalk switch is the solution.

similar thing here,when you turn wipers off they go off wherever they are at the time,intermittant wipers only travel part way across the screen each time they wash,rear wiper no longer works automatically when in reverse,but work fine on the wiper switch,I beleive this is all controlled by the ccu ?,if a second hand part is fitted does it still need to be aligned to the car by a landrover stealer ?any help,advice appreciated.

Hi Mudplug, The wiper motor has a metal "park" track inside on the plastic gear wheel which allows the motor to continue to run until it gets to it's rest position - it stops when the motor (small contact inside) passes the end of the "park" track. This is used for intermittent wipe (CCU pushes wiper off rest and motor runs via "park" track) and also when you manually blip the stalk for a single wipe. If only this function stops working then the motor track is FUBAR'D - you can take the top off and look for the worn contact - a simple repair.
Otherwise a replacement is your option - as said above a simple circuit no complex electickery in the wipers.
Can most-times be fixed by a simple bend of the contact spring or extending the worn contact with a small bit of brass strip or flattened copper wire if you can solder?