Engine won’t rotate by hand

P1Darbs · Sep 13, 2019

Hi everyone, I’mnew to the Land Rover so asking for a little help.

Might seem like a silly question but would like to be sure... I have a 2010 Range Rover Sport 3.0 TDV6 L320 got it cheap as it wouldn’t start.
Removed the starter motor and yes it’s toast. Pre-engage works/shoots out but won’t spin.
Anyway haven’t fitted a new one yet as I’m away but I removed the auxiliary belt to check nothing else was ceased or broken because I can not turn the engine over by hand. Using a socket and lever on the crank? Is this normal? or should the engine rotate... I would have thought it should just like other engines I’ve worked on, hence I’m a little bit worried that something might have failed internally.

Would love to get a no answer to myquestion actually so I could happily fit a new starter and drive along with the biggestsmile on my face. lol
P1Darbs

Datatek · Sep 13, 2019

Sounds like the engine is toast and that is why the starter motor has burnt out. It should turn, make sure you only turn in the correct direction, never counter rotate.

Colthebrummie · Sep 13, 2019

Yes the engine should turn by hand, you didn't leave it park did you?

Col

Wazzajnr · Sep 13, 2019

Should be able to turn it with a bar.
I hate to say it but these are renowned for snapping crankshafts!
Hope it isn't that!
@gstuart might have a better insight.

Datatek · Sep 13, 2019

Colthebrummie said:
Yes the engine should turn by hand, you didn't leave it park did you?

Col

Leaving it in Park would make no difference.

P1Darbs · Sep 13, 2019

Ok car is in neutral & I have my breaker bar & 21” socket trying to rotate the engine clockwise as you look at it

gstuart · Sep 13, 2019

Wazzajnr said:
Should be able to turn it with a bar.
I hate to say it but these are renowned for snapping crankshafts!
Hope it isn't that!
@gstuart might have a better insight.

Hiya

Saw the thread over the introduce section and indeed think the crank may have snapped

Also said there that I hope the OP hasn’t paid a lot for it as if another engine is req it won’t be cheap

Needs to remove the cam covers to see the condition of the belts and tensioners

P1Darbs · Sep 13, 2019

Ok so I’m away at the moment but collecting as much info as poss before I get back to face this problem lol does the body need to be lifted off ? Obviously not to get to the belts but if engine has imploded wouldn’t there be lots of oil everywhere & a hole in the sump or block ??

P1Darbs · Sep 13, 2019

brianp38dse · Sep 13, 2019

A snapped crank would not always mean holes and oil everywhere, my renault van one snapped and there was no indication from the out side, but dropped sump and all became clear
You might be able to drop the sump and have a look may be easier than pulling all the bits top end and an oil change if not broken won't go a miss, good luck hope it's not gone.

P1Darbs · Sep 13, 2019

Me too hoping it’s not broken hence asking all the questions now... This is how I’ve left it but moved it to my house. Can’t seem to see how rads come out easily though ?

brianp38dse · Sep 13, 2019

Do keep us updated as it how we all lurn the faults on these motors, we get a lot of people come on here get info and disappear so we never lurn the out come.

RangeRoller dt · Sep 13, 2019

^^^ it’s important for the next poor soul that comes along searching for same thing

P1Darbs · Sep 13, 2019

Trust me on this one you will all have access to my post about my experience with this car

I’m gutted but remaining positive about how I go forward, so I’ll defo let y’all know how this journey progresses

Wazzajnr · Sep 13, 2019

It's basically the same engine as an s type jag so if you need a new engine you can pick those up for around a grand.

P1Darbs · Sep 13, 2019

Wazzajnr said:
It's basically the same engine as an s type jag so if you need a new engine you can pick those up for around a grand.

OMG but this is good to know

gstuart · Sep 13, 2019

Wazzajnr said:
It's basically the same engine as an s type jag so if you need a new engine you can pick those up for around a grand.

Unfortunately the S type jag won’t be any good in this instance , needs an engine out of an XF jag

For a tested half decent 3 x litre TDV6 engine ur looking at a min of £3-4K ,

Or buy a written off D4 / sport , engines that are worth having are around the £2k range but will have around 70-80,000 miles on the clock

So really take a Chance in one sense on buying a second hand engine, but they do come up

Brand new the engines are well over £10k , new crankshafts are £2k alone

gstuart · Sep 13, 2019

P1Darbs said:
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Hi

Looks like you’ve been taking it apart already as indeed know u wouldn’t have bought it like that

Please tell me that’s not an auction number as if it is you’ve got no come back what so ever unless there’s some form of return policy

My concern is for example u replace the engine and then find out the suspension doesn’t work or water has got into the electronics

Got Fingers crossed this goes well and is something simple , but can see if it is an engine ur looking at a min of £3k before u sneeze

Would u mind saying how much u paid for it please, of course tell me to mind my own business if u don’t wish to

Datatek · Sep 13, 2019

brianp38dse said:
A snapped crank would not always mean holes and oil everywhere, my renault van one snapped and there was no indication from the out side, but dropped sump and all became clear
You might be able to drop the sump and have a look may be easier than pulling all the bits top end and an oil change if not broken won't go a miss, good luck hope it's not gone.

My Porsche snapped a crank at 400 miles from new, no indications it just stopped.

gstuart · Sep 13, 2019

Datatek said:
My Porsche snapped a crank at 400 miles from new, no indications it just stopped.

Oh bloody hell mate , bet that really made ur day, Not

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