Discovery 2 TD5 auto not starting

hi, Got a disco 2 td5 auto 99 T reg and it won't start. It had been running ok , but i parked it up for a couple of weeks whilst i got a new head for it, Diesel in the Coolant. Went to start it again to move it into the shed to fit the head and the key fob didn't work. Unlocked with key and the alarm went off. Couldn't switch it off, Then it finally stopped.

Since then it hasn't started. M&S lights flashing and a \ through the P on the dash. When I turn the key I notice the Clock light Dims. Checked the battery and getting 14.4 so that doesn't appear to be the problem. Replaced the xyz switch, that hasn't worked.

The alarm light on the dash isn't flashing at all. The key fob doesn't appear to do anything.

I've removed the fuse box under the stearing wheel and that looks ok.

Can anybody suggest what else I can look at?

richsmith78 said:

The alarm light on the dash isn't flashing at all. The key fob doesn't appear to do anything.

I've removed the fuse box under the steering wheel and that looks ok.

Can anybody suggest what else I can look at?

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Irrespective of what voltage you get a rest, I would say the battery is knackered because as soon as you put any load on it, it shows to be weak.

check the battery clamps and the main earth...measure voltage on the battery terminals while somebody turns ignition on...if the voltage on the battery doesnt drop then, check the main connections at the engine bay fusebox and measure there. If u'll find good voltages there and no power on ignition i can tell you more but only if u have RAVE and u are up to make some measurements yourself

thebiglad, thanks for the suggestion i so wanted this to be the fix. But tried a new battery and still the same problem.


sierrafery, no drop in voltage when the ignition is turned on. measured around the fuse box and all appears to be fine. Apart from one place but wasn't sure what the cable was. It's a yellow cable connected to the front right of the fuse box as you look at it. I thought it was an earth but not sure. When putting a meter between that and the positve on the battery i get 8.4v. Yes I have got RAVE.

you say the alarm LED is not flashing, but is it constantly on when u turn ignition? ... if yes it means it's immobilised cos u opened with key and u have to introduce EKA code, it's described in RAVE/ alarm system and horn/description and operation 86-4-21 ...if you dont have the EKA code go to ask it from a main dealer with the car's papers and pray to not be modifyed by the previous owner

see that http://www.landroverclubvi.com/uplo...ngine_immobilization_after_using_8606nas2.pdf

sierrafery said:

you say the alarm LED is not flashing, but is it constantly on when u turn ignition? ... if yes it means it's immobilised cos u opened with key and u have to introduce EKA code, it's described in RAVE/ alarm system and horn/description and operation 86-4-21 ...if you dont have the EKA code go to ask it from a main dealer with the car's papers and pray to not be modifyed by the previous owner

see that http://www.landroverclubvi.com/uplo...ngine_immobilization_after_using_8606nas2.pdf

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No the alarm LED is off all the time, even when i turn the ignition.

richsmith78 said:

No the alarm LED is off all the time, even when i turn the ignition.

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it might not work at all...the other warnings are lighting up normally when u turn ignition on?, or it's total blackout? ...describe better what's going on if u want help...cos now i dont understand that the M & S are flashing when u put ignition on or not, or the clock dims but the M & S keeps binking? ... it's an immobiliser or a voltage issue?

sierrafery, sorry for the confusion. Here's whats happening:

Keyfob isn't working and the alarm light isn't flashing at all. I can open the drivers door with key. But alarm light still not working

When I turn the key to the 1st position. The M&S lights flash and a \ is over the P. The alarm light still doesn't flash or do anything.

Then if i try to crank it just nothing, the clock light dims. the M&S lights still flash and \ is still over the P.

what about ALL the other warning lights on the dash? do they work normally as self check? ...check fuses F23, F29, F34

and just to make sure... you said no drop of voltage when ignition on.... did you mean while somebody turned the key on crank position didnt you? ...cos otherwise it's not relevant

All other lights on dash work ok. All fuses ok. Yes no voltage drop when someone turned the key on crank position.

Got my hands on a hawkeye and plugged it in. I've got fault 14 p0705 position switch, I've already replaced the xyz switch. I had also checked the wiring to the switch and it looked ok. Is there another cause of this error?

richsmith78 said:

Got my hands on a hawkeye and plugged it in. I've got fault 14 p0705 position switch, I've already replaced the xyz switch. I had also checked the wiring to the switch and it looked ok. Is there another cause of this error?

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It sounds to me like you have multiple faults and I would strongly advise you to focus on one at a time or you'll just go round in circles.

As such can I just clarify, when you try to start the engine, does the motor turn over? Does it just 'click'? Does it do nothing at all?

When you turn the ignition to position II, can you hear the fuel pump running if you stand by the rear offside wheelarch?

Dave

thebiglad said:

It sounds to me like you have multiple faults and I would strongly advise you to focus on one at a time or you'll just go round in circles.

As such can I just clarify, when you try to start the engine, does the motor turn over? Does it just 'click'? Does it do nothing at all?

When you turn the ignition to position II, can you hear the fuel pump running if you stand by the rear offside wheelarch?

Dave

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I feel like I've been going in circles I've been stuck on this for over 3 weeks and keep reading about similar problems. But everything I've tried hasn't worked.

The motor doesn't do anything. Just dead. I will double check tomorrow but I cant remember hearing a click.

Yes I can hear the fuel pump.

Any help/advice would be greatly appreciated.

havent read all the thread ,have you tried removing filter and checking fuel flows freely with suitable container under

as long as you are sure you hear the pump working it's not immobilised so swap relays R2(starter) with R3(headlamp wash) in engine bay fusebox for test...maybe the starter relay is dead

sierrafery said:

as long as you are sure you hear the pump working it's not immobilised so swap relays R2(starter) with R3(headlamp wash) in engine bay fusebox for test...maybe the starter relay is dead

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I drive past a lr dealer on way home so got a new relay. Now when I try to start the engine i can hear a clicking from around the relay. Still not starting but I wasn't getting a click before. So that's different hopefully good different.

But still not starting and the m&s lights still flash. I've double checked the wiring under the car to the xyz switch and it looks good. The switch has been replaced.

Any more idea's?

if now the relay is clicking check fusible link FL12 in the engine bay fusebox and if it's good the connections at the starter motor...especially the thin wire with the lucar connector....imo the non cranking and the M/S lights are not related...check the locator cos u better find somebody with nanocom or hawkeye to plug it in

richsmith78 said:

I drive past a lr dealer on way home so got a new relay. Now when I try to start the engine i can hear a clicking from around the relay. Still not starting but I wasn't getting a click before. So that's different hopefully good different.

But still not starting and the m&s lights still flash. I've double checked the wiring under the car to the xyz switch and it looks good. The switch has been replaced.

Any more idea's?

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It sounds to me like your starter solenoid has gone - get someone to try and start the car while you are underneath. If it's what I think it is, the noise will come from the drivers side of the engine to it's rear.

IF I'm right you need a solenoid repair kit - they cost £10 from a supplier on Ebay and are if anything better quality than the original. If you can confirm it's the starter motor I'll give you a step by step to fix it - it's an easy job.

thebiglad said:

It sounds to me like your starter solenoid has gone - get someone to try and start the car while you are underneath. If it's what I think it is, the noise will come from the drivers side of the engine to it's rear.

IF I'm right you need a solenoid repair kit - they cost £10 from a supplier on Ebay and are if anything better quality than the original. If you can confirm it's the starter motor I'll give you a step by step to fix it - it's an easy job.

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No noise from the starter motor. I can short the starter and the starter spins, but the disco won't start.