Classic 3.5 EFI probs.

Ade Bentley · Jul 22, 2017

Hi to all Range Rover lover's. has anyone got an '87 EFI classic, I know there rare but so far I've only
seen one in 2 year's. Any how, i've got a big problem guy's, I cant get the water pump pulley & 11 blade
fan off, Rads out being re-cored but no way to get the inertia fan off.

pete1987RRC · Jul 22, 2017

Yep I got one, well 2 to be fair but one is a parts car.

Which way are you turning to undo, it's a reverse thread.

The can be a bugger to get off mind.

Ade Bentley · Jul 23, 2017

pete1987RRC said:
Yep I got one, well 2 to be fair but one is a parts car.

Which way are you turning to undo, it's a reverse thread.

The can be a bugger to get off mind.

Well I tried both ways, wd 40 overnight, monkey wrench & a hammer, the main problem is that the water pump pulley
has only got the belt's to stop it moving, even put heat on it , but nothing, but it's only a bit of steel, right.
My '87 isn't normal. ex SAS, used for 3 years as a chase & capture motor, so its running a full high compression
lump. very quick & economical with 4 speed auto Z box & overdrive built in. Many unusual bits on her !
Did you know only 106 were built.

tomcat59alan · Jul 23, 2017

Ade Bentley said:
Well I tried both ways, wd 40 overnight, monkey wrench & a hammer, the main problem is that the water pump pulley
has only got the belt's to stop it moving, even put heat on it , but nothing, but it's only a bit of steel, right.
My '87 isn't normal. ex SAS, used for 3 years as a chase & capture motor, so its running a full high compression
lump. very quick & economical with 4 speed auto Z box & overdrive built in. Many unusual bits on her !
Did you know only 106 were built.

Your not using a big enough hammer.

ukadamwest · Jul 23, 2017

I had the same issue.. I have the Laser tools 5591 bar for holding the pulley... undo one if the pull bolts insert it through the hole at the end of the pulley holder do it up finger tight, get the viscous fan spanner give it a thump clockwise when looking into the engine bay and it will spin off

pete1987RRC · Jul 23, 2017

'Tis not an easy job if seized.

Ade Bentley · Jul 23, 2017

ukadamwest said:
I had the same issue.. I have the LSE tools 5591 bar for holding the pulley... undo one if the pull bolts insert it through the hole at the end of the pulley holder do it up finger tight, get the viscous fan spanner give it a thump clockwise when looking into the engine bay and it will spin off

Many thanks for that adam, as pete1987 says , its a very tough job if seized, hope mine's not, now where do I buy the tools. ?

Ade Bentley · Jul 23, 2017

tomcat59alan said:
Your not using a big enough hammer.

you obviously don't own a classic !

pete1987RRC · Jul 23, 2017

You can use Adams tool or wedge a good flat bladed screwdriver on he pully, that works but if it's real tight a grinder will help get an edge on the screwdriver again.

pete1987RRC · Jul 23, 2017

My guess is that as your classic ownership extends in time duration you will also acquire big hammers.

I have a 3lb ball and pain (if you miss) which is most useful.

A good impact hammer is also good or one of them batter powered one just like I ave

tomcat59alan · Jul 24, 2017

Ade Bentley said:
you obviously don't own a classic !

Had many in the past and the p38's have a viscous fan that can also be a bastard. Make sure you buy the kit that includes plasters and a list of new swear words.

jamesmartin · Jul 24, 2017

pete1987RRC said:
'Tis not an easy job if seized.

it is if you know what your doing, any can be undone by stretching the nut with a hammer and punch

tomcat59alan · Jul 24, 2017

Pulley holding tool item number 361932647562 off the Bay and loads of spanners if you type in viscous fan spanner in the search box. You could always make the holding tool from a piece of flat bar suitably drilled and ground. Ps, plus gas or a proprietary penetrating oil is better than WD40.

norseman · Jul 24, 2017

Ade Bentley said:
My '87 isn't normal. ex SAS, used for 3 years as a chase & capture motor, so its running a full high compression
lump. very quick & economical with 4 speed auto Z box & overdrive built in. Many unusual bits on her !
Did you know only 106 were built.

norseman · Jul 24, 2017

Ade Bentley said:
My '87 isn't normal. ex SAS, used for 3 years as a chase & capture motor, so its running a full high compression
lump. very quick & economical with 4 speed auto Z box & overdrive built in. Many unusual bits on her !
Did you know only 106 were built.

I have a '87 Vouge which has the high comp. (9.35:1) engine, the same ZF & no I didn't know the numbers built. If it was originally used for that purpose I'm surprised at the choice of transmission as a manual would have been quicker & more controllable. What are the 'unusual bits' & is the car fitted with anti-roll bars I wonder because LR did not perfect their own set-up until the early 'nineties but sometimes used a Harvey-Bailey system in the interim Sorry I can't add to the 'fan debate as I'm happy for my indie to do the swearing. As far as I know the eleven blade was introduced with the efi version of the 3.5 in Oct '85.

ukadamwest · Jul 24, 2017

Ade Bentley said:
Many thanks for that adam, as pete1987 says , its a very tough job if seized, hope mine's not, now where do I buy the tools. ?

Auto correct changed it from Laser to LSE

. Google Laser Tools 5591 and you'll see it

The silverline viscous spanner is also useful 32mm and 36mm on the other

pete1987RRC · Jul 24, 2017

jamesmartin said:
it is if you know what your doing, any can be undone by stretching the nut with a hammer and punch

Kindly tell us more James.

Ade Bentley · Jul 24, 2017

tomcat59alan said:
Had many in the past and the p38's have a viscous fan that can also be a bastard. Make sure you buy the kit that includes plasters and a list of new swear words.

Already got lots of plasters & the locals have all gone on holiday for some reason !

Ade Bentley · Jul 25, 2017

tomcat59alan said:
Your not using a big enough hammer.

ukadamwest said:
I had the same issue.. I have the Laser tools 5591 bar for holding the pulley... undo one if the pull bolts insert it through the hole at the end of the pulley holder do it up finger tight, get the viscous fan spanner give it a thump clockwise when looking into the engine bay and it will spin off

I'm gonna make my own pulley bar holder & get me a BIG 'ammer,

Ade Bentley · Jul 25, 2017

Ade Bentley said:
you obviously don't own a classic !

Sorry mate , didn't realise you were like me, a world class pi$$taker . lol

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